HamRadioNow: That ARRL Entry Level License Survey

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by KN4AQ, Mar 2, 2017.

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  1. KK5JY

    KK5JY Ham Member QRZ Page

    It's not going to happen. ARRL is going to spin their wheels on this, and they might even get NCVEC involved in it. But in the end, they tried this before, and it failed:

    http://w5jgv.com/downloads/FCC-05-143A1.pdf

    Yeah, the details are a little different, but FCC identified what they considered to be fatal flaws in the attempt to add privileges to the entry-level class, or to replace the entry-level class with a different one. They called the General class exam easy. None of the new entry-level proposals directly address the flaws that caused FCC to turn this down in 2005, so it's safe to assume that the likelihood of this passing is nearly zero today.
    It's too bad none of those hard-working people could be bothered to read the 2005 ruling, and find a way to update their proposals to address the flaws identified by FCC back then.

    Nothing to see here. Just more wheel-spinning (and money-wasting) in Newington, CT.
     
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  2. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    C'mon guys. This is not a legit example to justify ARRL bashing. The ARRL is doing what its supposed to be doing in this case.
     
  3. K2JVI

    K2JVI Ham Member QRZ Page

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    "How many H1-Bs am I supposed to support because I don't have access to a 'pool skilled in the art' or wireless/radio here in the USA?"
    I hear you on this one Chip..
    Yes we need to find some way to get kids interested in technology and wireless,how it really works. The trouble I see is this. Being a father myself(both kids
    grown) but kids seem to be over-scheduled with everything from endless hours of homework ,which about half is busy work, and all of the activities they have to do
    in order to supposedly be able to get in to college. I wonder how many kids actually get any off time to really think about what they really like or enjoy doing, I'm afraid those days are gone. And getting back to your point Chip, the real challenge for schools (both public and private) is to try to offer courses or even activities in various technical areas and make it fun and engaging. We as a society need to do something. And finally, people need to stop thinking of tech people as "nerds" in a negative light, there are so many good jobs for technical people from all walks of life and at all levels, many are unfilled-and need to be filled by Americans..
    73's
    Bob.
     
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  4. W2JLD

    W2JLD Ham Member QRZ Page

    I bet if you were to give current general and extra exam to those whom already have it, They will be surprised at how many would fail them............

    i run a tech net and we do questions from the general and extra class pools and i have found that more often than not that people whom are general or extra failed these questions. They have become complacent in their hobby.....retest everyone out there in the ham radio career.....those whom have been licensed for many years should be retested to ensure they are up to par on the questions.

    As far as giving techs more band width, im all for it.........10m is dead.....6m is dead...........most of the qso are on 20m , 40m, 75m

    there is nothing worse for a new ham to get an hf rig and there is no one out there...and if there is someone out there is all about the signal strength and location and after that they are gone.

    there is less than .005 % of hams that are under 16 yrs of age and there is less than .003 is the yl's in the hobby.

    This hobby lacks the main stream input to make it more popular.......there is a small percentage that really has what you need to be in this hobby its not or every kid.

    with approx 120 sk's per year the pool of older hams is decreasing and with them goes the knowledge
     
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  5. NK2U

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    Exactly correct. People get licensed for the wrong reasons as mentioned above. You can't teach someone to love radio, period.

    de NK2U
     
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  6. NK2U

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    "Interest" is not something you can teach; either it's there or not.

    de NK2U
     
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  7. N2EY

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    BRING IT ON!

    Every few months I try an online practice exam to be sure I'm still up to snuff. Never a problem.

    In fact if there was a retest I'd do 20 wpm code, send and receive, because I can.

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    Here's what's really sad, IMHO......

    Back when I got started in the 1960s, there was the Novice license. The old Novice gave very limited privileges, but they were HF privileges on bands that were full of folks I could work with simple, basic gear. And not just locals but folks hundreds of miles away.

    What we need today is a "Novice for the 21st Century" - an updated, modern version of what got me and so many others started back-when. The Technician is not that license; the days of busy repeaters all over VHF/UHF are gone. Nor are the tiny slices of HF, and the limited modes, allowed to Techs adequate.

    But whenever someone tries to discuss this, there's a pool-pah of opposition, for no good reason I can see.

    I wonder what US Amateur Radio would be like today if the Novice license idea had been shot down in 1951.
     
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  8. N2EY

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    You can't teach it - but you can ignite it.

    A person can't be interested in something if they don't know it exists.

    Our job is not to "sell" Amateur Radio to everyone, but to inform everyone about it, so that the few who just might be interested are know it exists.
     
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  9. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    Probably like this...the living dead.

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  10. KK5JY

    KK5JY Ham Member QRZ Page

    Criticizing a specific ARRL initiative is not "ARRL bashing."

    In your humble opinion. ;) You are certainly entitled to it, and it can stand or fall on its own merit. That said, just because people have an opposing viewpoint, that does not make them "bashers" or "haters" or "naysayers" or whatever slur of the week.
     

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