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Ham Radio in Disney WORLD

Discussion in 'On the Road' started by K9ZFG, Mar 31, 2015.

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  1. K6CPO

    K6CPO Ham Member QRZ Page

    I went through the same routine several years ago. I was turned away at the bag check at Disneyland (CA) and told I couldn't bring my HT into the parks. I later sought and received e-mail confirmation that it IS permissible to bring a ham radio into the park as long as it doesn't interfere with their internal communications. I received pretty much the same thing from Disney World (FL) before a trip there and I took my radio with me. I tried using it from the hotel once and didn't have much luck. In the entire week's trip, I didn't take it into the parks once...

    I've had better luck with Disneyland since then. I've found the best thing is to just put it in my pocket when going through the bag check. Cargo pockets are great...
     
  2. K6CPO

    K6CPO Ham Member QRZ Page

    I don't what it's like now, but 15 years ago Six Flags Magic Mountain in California was horrible. The park was dirty and trashy, the employees didn't seem to care and it was the only theme park with metal detectors at the entrance prior to 9/11...
     
  3. KD2AKG

    KD2AKG Ham Member QRZ Page

    Just returned from WDW. I brought my HT into the parks, used at hotel, etc. not sure what the deal was, but the WDW repeater was pretty quiet. Nobody at the airport, hotel,WDW gave me a second look. I did see an employee in downtown disney using a Baofeng for store comms.
     
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  4. KD8ZMN

    KD8ZMN Ham Member QRZ Page

    The security official may have thought that your radio works on their frequencies. He sounds clueless. If GMRS radios are allowed so should ham radios. Just be careful on the rides, keep all valuables with a non-riding companion. There was a fatality this week at Cedar Point when a rider jumped a security fence to recover his cellphone.
     
  5. KK4YDR

    KK4YDR Ham Member QRZ Page

    Why does one want to yap on a Ham Radio while at Disney when they should be exploring Disney and riding the attractions. Just my curiosity.

    And this crap about confiscation of radios????

    This is the United States of America. If they do not want that radio on the property put it in your pocket and leave the park. They do not have a right to confiscate any property of yours unless a Florida State Certified Law Enforcement official is placing you under arrest for breaking a statute or law of the state.

    Know your rights...
    Amendment IV of the bill of rights
    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
     
  6. K5URU

    K5URU Ham Member QRZ Page

    I realize my example is not quite the same, but I brought my HT with me on a Las Vegas vacation a few weeks ago. The week before, I had passed my first amateur radio exam and got my call sign. A few hours before my flight left, my HT arrived in the mail. Yes, there is plenty to do in Las Vegas, but I was anxious to get on the air. I also didn't mind having a time sink that would give me some time away from the casinos. ;)

    I hit the internet and found out that not only was my radio allowed on my flight, they actually preferred that I pack it in my carry-on bag. One thing I learned is to make sure the battery is charged, because TSA agents may require you to demonstrate that it powers on during your security screening. Of course, I knew not to use it during my flight, or even at the airport. I removed the battery and antenna from the base and placed them in separate sections of my backpack to make sure there was no way it could accidentally power on during the trip. Incidentally, I was never even asked about the radio during any of my security screenings or flights.

    Anyway, as it turns out, my first amateur radio contact was made from my 9th floor hotel room at the Hard Rock Hotel, across a linked repeater with a nice lady from Salt Lake City, UT. I also listened to a Coast Guard Auxiliary net, which was a great experience for a beginner as well.

    Later that week, I went to the top level of the parking garage to try a different repeater, when a security guard drove up and approached me, saying that they had received several calls about "a man walking around with a radio." I simply said, "Yes, it's an amateur radio, and I'm just trying to make a few local contacts." After a few brief questions, the guard said it was no problem, and actually recommended a different repeater that, although further away, had a better line of sight. I was surprised and thrilled.

    -Blake
     
  7. K5JEF

    K5JEF Ham Member QRZ Page

    Disney World club and repeater information see WD4WDW if you must.
     
  8. K6CPO

    K6CPO Ham Member QRZ Page

    I've never had anyone at an airport security check question any of my radios in a carry on bag. However, I'm finding more and more that if I take a radio on a trip, I don't use it. I flew up to Monterey last month for a high school reunion and I didn't take the radio out of the bag at all in the four days I was there.
     
  9. WA9WVX

    WA9WVX Ham Member QRZ Page

    Twenty to twenty five years ago Disneyland had a horrendous problem with intermodulation RF signals on the own Business Band Repeaters, I believe they were using the commercial Kenwood handhelds and most likely Kenwood UHF Repeaters. The technical staff working the problem eventually tried installing external Circulators on the handhelds to evaluate whether this would help. You must understand how a transmit Circulator works as it's a one-way device that allows the transmitted RF signal to go to the antenna but any RF signal coming back is routed to a 50 Ohm Dummy Load. Obviously those external Circulators helped the problem but created a problem with the receive RF signals because of the attenuation and these small Circulators were about half the size of the Kenwood handhelds. I never read a follow up article as to what the outcome was.

    Right from the get-go they should have taken all of the UHF Repeater Pairs and ran them through an engineering software program that performed the A+B+C+D+Etc and A-B-C-D-Etc to determine unusable Frequency Pairs ... not after the system was sold to Disney ... that was a BIG EXPENSIVE
    OOPS!

    I suspect that many of the Disney personnel remember this problem and instantaneously provide a NO answer to inquiring ham operators wanting to have their handhelds with them in the park. I can also imagine that the Disney / ABC Amateur Radio Repeaters are rather void of activity while the parks are open to the Public as all of the employees are busy doing their work.

    Perhaps now Disney is using 800 MHz Digital Trunking Repeaters that would eliminate the older Analog UHF Repeater's problems.

    Dan
    WA9WVX
     
  10. K6CPO

    K6CPO Ham Member QRZ Page

    I had an e-mail exchange with the owner of the repeater that used to be locate inside the Disneyland park. He advised me that the park had him remove it from their grounds completely a number of years ago. It's now located near the park but not inside it.

    Now, if I want to take my HT with me to Disneyland, I take the antenna off and stash it in the cargo pocket of my trousers or shorts. There's no metal detector, just a bag check at both Disneyland and WDW.
     

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