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Ham Radio 360: Extra Class Upgrade with W4EDF

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by K4CDN, Aug 22, 2017.

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  1. N4GKS

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    You scored 48 correct answers and 2 incorrect answers from a total of 50.

    You would have passed the exam! Congratulations!

    Gee, I made Extra!
  2. LA6VQ

    LA6VQ Platinum Subscriber Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    Whether the test is taken "for the heck of it", or as a result of a long time ambition and lots of hard work, doesn't matter for FCC. However, W4EDF's experience and input in the podcast at the top of this thread is clearly best suited for those who work hard preparing for the test because they find Amateur Extra to be a stretched goal that is important for them to reach.
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  3. ND1SU

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    I am one of those hated, vile, lazy, worthless no-code extras who are leading the hobby to ruin....

    I did use Ham Test Online to study, but I did make the effort to write down questions I got wrong and research them. I had great "AHA" moments doing this. I never really understood electrical circuits when I took physics in college (my degree is in chemistry), but when I studied to get my ticket, I finally understood the relationship between inductance, capacitance, and impedance. I learned why an antenna works, even though it kinda-sorta looks like an open circuit (loops excluded, of course :cool:) I learned a lot, even given the rote learning model.

    I will never build my own rig, or repair anything at the component level - I have physical limitations now, among them neuropathy which makes it impossible to wield a soldering iron with any precision. For those same reasons, I cannot put up a resonant antenna, or any sort of decent dipole (I live in an apartment - I didn't buy my brother's house when he moved because I would not have been able to care for it properly). Nevertheless, I am glad I found this hobby. I am learning something new all the time!
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  4. WB9AZA

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    You are absolutely correct John. Thanks for your military service.
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  5. F4HPX

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    After 24 hour of intense "study" I improved from 66% to 86% ! So, more than necessary.
    Did I understand much more ? Hmm, not so sure but memorized a lot. It looks like that part of the brain is still working...
    Learning means both memorizing and/or understanding. I believe first is coming before the second and the second when you start asking yourself: why is that?
    Could I learn by heart all questions from all 3 exams? Possibly. Hopefully, I don't have to and I have to admit maybe too lazy for ;) ... but flashcard technique is terrific. I never tried it before.

    73 Thomas de F4HPX
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  6. KE0EYJ

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    Working on my Extra, also. I take the test in December. We get all nearly all bands, except 30m here in Korea. If we want to run big power, we have to upgrade to Extra. I have built a few 2-el yagis, and am working on a 3-el. I am nearing the best I can have for an antenna, and also working on a portable 20m moxon for mountaintop work. I now have an amp, but cannot use it to its fullest potential yet. Am still waiting on my peak-reading watt meter from DX Engineering. I'm partly doing it for the 1kw rating, but also to become a VE and help grow things around here. Experienced English-speaking VE foreign hams come and go from here, and I have to get it while there are enough around.

    Working several hour-long 4,000+ mile pileups into the EU, after building your own pvc/wire yagi is a thrill. Les Moxon is my hero.
    Last edited: Aug 25, 2017
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  7. F4HPX

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    Hi Derek, I wish you good luck too.
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  8. KE0EYJ

    KE0EYJ Ham Member QRZ Page

    Thanks, and you, as well.

    I have begun by memorizing answers, but will likely purchase one of the ham tests online which go through and explain everything. Memorizing is boring, and I don't learn as much that way. I am trying to find if anyone has a used Extra book around here. I bet some Koreans do, as many find the English test easier than the Korean one. I have another friend here who also wants to test for Extra at the same time, and later get his VE, as well.
  9. F4HPX

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    I agree. I never liked to learn by heart... I preferred to understand, find a logic then derive answer/solution from that. That is working pretty well for technical things but for all kind of regulations there is nothing to understand.
    Books are heavy thus shipping costs for abroad are often doubling the price... and half of the book is the list of the questions and correct answers... I am trying rather to dig for the info online.
  10. K2MOB

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    The primary purpose of the FCC tests is to determine if you meet the minimum knowledge level currently required for each license level. It's purpose isn't to certify you as a master electronics technician or electrical engineer, it's just a starting point to build upon as you enjoy this wonderful hobby. If you don't continue to learn and grow in ham radio, maybe it's time to take up golf or something else... ;)
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