Please everyone ... excuse my spelling mistakes and frustration esp. when I read such rubbish. We have too many programs that were letter-perfect whether EVMS or on schedule that turned up duds for our warriors on the front line. I always put myself out there with those I served with and remembered when something did not quite work right under fire or an operation in the middle of an ocean ... I thought as a NCO it was those damn engineers. Only later when I did my time on the line where every officer should be until they are successful at the O-4 level ( as an O-2E and up, I got no slack from my skippers), they should not be on shore duty or in a school. DMSC - not DAU in my time ... but after that, and being in my first Program Office with 22 years as a naval aviation engineering officer under my belt, I saw why the systems failed - poor requirements, requirements creep, impossible specifications, a dislike by Government for data and drawing reviews (a sign of who is a real PM and Lead System Engineer or absent on the job), and the failure of us, military and civil servants of not following the system design and development against the RTVM and its contractual WBS before every ETR event. If my staff in or out of a program office of defense contractor facility did not engage with their counterparts daily, and both had the same story as to where we were, then I teamed with my counterpart to correct first our deficiency in leadership, their training, and lastly an assignment where they could do the least harm under the careful eyes and strong hand of a mentor. It really burns me when I read someone insult contractors as without them the wonders we have at present would not be. Americans are the greatest engineers in history since the Romans. So excuse this one example of what the US civil service is not about, or a portrayal of "them versus us". As before some 2.5 decades earlier and to the present, I have been fortunate with working with some of our nation's brightest and most dedicated professionals on both sides of the DoD acquisition process. and the so-called Millineals - give a dozen and I'll run over any other program with the post-baby Boom generation. These young adults are focused, collaborative, self-starters, eager to learn, not afraid to innovate, and most of all are respectful and loyal. The only way you could lose one to another job is to fail them. Actually, they are me - in some cases, Hippie and all as far as rules that inhibit creativity and thinking out of the box. Well, back to work as some of us have yet to reach our full potential after 48 years of doing everything and having fun learning new things and being a part of a team. 3 careers and I still do not know what I want to do when I grow up !!!