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Discussion in 'Working Different Modes' started by KA1BSZ, Dec 16, 2020.

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  1. KB0MNM

    KB0MNM Ham Member QRZ Page

    In order of my preferences:
    ( Some of these require the 'DOS Command Prompt' or 'Command Prompt' window, depending on the PC operating system ) :

    ProComm(Tm) ( In the 'shareware' sort of version, non-commercial use O.K. )
    ProComm Plus(Tm) with Aspect(tm) scripting language ( there may still be a price for this one )
    PuTTY ( applicable to some newer operating systems, just not as user-friendly with no built-in split screen in some versions )
    Hyperterminal(Tm) paid versions ( non-crippleware, ie. VT-52/VT-100 arrow keys function correctly )
    Hyperterminal(Tm) included in Windows95(TM/C/Etc.) see above
    X-Modem(TM/R/etc.) by Ward Christensen
    Kermit(TM/R/Etc.?)
    MultiComm (TM/R/Etc.) ( If you can find it )
    PK-Gold (TM/R/Etc.) ( If you can find it )
    PK-Term (TM/R/Etc.) ( If you can find it- AEA dissolved into both Timewave and AEA- a different AEA company )
    Old PK-232 logging program only if the older PC date is faked for the 1970s or 1980s. Some had a 'drop-dead' timer which choked if the year was beyond the expiration.
    Then once you have a basic VT-52 or VT-100 interface type, you will also want the manual from Timewave(TM/R/Etc.) at www.timewave.com for the meanings of the commands.
    Then there are others who just use "TTY" from Linux/etc. operating systems, and PC-PacRatt for Macintosh-era 'Apple' machines.
    Consider an RS-232 cable which has more than just 3 conductors- most handshaking lines when you wish to transmit- and "callsign" is NOT an optional parameter for transmit.
    Before you go too far, consider also the internal battery in the PK-232- is it corroded? Most need to be replaced, or have been with a battery holder.
    Also- that power supply almost always needs to supply a full 1 ampere current. You can listen without that much, yet you may wish to send. Timewave sells them...
     
  2. W4KYR

    W4KYR Ham Member QRZ Page

  3. WA9UAA

    WA9UAA Ham Member QRZ Page

    I found some freeware called LanLink which can be setup for many of the popular 90s boxes like the PK-232 and the KAM series. It took some work, as the initialization file had a command my PK-232 didn't like. (DCD, I put a hash tag in front (#DCD) to null out the command.) Then, I had to get it setup for HF packet at first so I could monitor the 20M packet channel. 14,103.350 on my IC 7300, with the rig in RTTY mode as I am setup for the FSK. It's still a work in progress, I'll monitor the thread for interest.
    73,
    Rob
     
  4. K3XR

    K3XR Ham Member QRZ Page

    There are any number of the old terminals available for packet and other digital modes but a real lack of software. Have had some success with terminal software but it's real cave man stuff compared to current programs. The one area where you might find some success is the older RTTY gear. There are so many talented hams who are also into programing that it's a mystery why more than a few programs for these older units don't exist as freeware. Perhaps it's the hardware that holds little interest. Maybe one of these program mavens will be motivated in 2021. Let's hope.
     
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  5. WN1MB

    WN1MB Ham Member QRZ Page

    Odd how some can get away with a "meds" comment, yet others have their posts removed...
     
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  6. ND6M

    ND6M Ham Member QRZ Page

    past history
     
  7. W7UUU

    W7UUU Principal Moderator Lifetime Member 133 Administrator Volunteer Moderator Platinum Subscriber Life Member QRZ Page

    "Report" it.

    We don't read minds nor do we read every single post in every single thread ;)

    Dave
    W7UUU
     
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  8. WW2BSA

    WW2BSA XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    Hi Rob - If you are still looking for PK-232 software, drop me a note and I will email you the source. The catch is, you have to run the software in DOS. I can help you with that as well....
    Chris
    www.WW2BSA.org
    Nationwide Amateur Radio Packet Directory and Map
     
  9. WA9UAA

    WA9UAA Ham Member QRZ Page

    Hi Chris,
    No worries, I have copies of the old software. Getting it to run has been a challenge, I tried DOS Box for a while but found it a bit fiddly. I would guess a DOS partition might be an idea but the notion of drivers for a newer machine might be a problem. I have found and am experimenting with LanLink Lite. http://therightrequirement.com/sfar/Lanlink/LLwindows.htm and have gotten it to send the basic commands to the PK-232 for all the operating modes. It had a problem with the PK-232 .ini file in that one command seems to hold up the process. That was DCD, I didn't find any info on it, my Eprom dates to March 1993, and put a hash tag in front to block it. (#DCD) Thanks for the offer.
    73,
    Rob
     
  10. K8BZ

    K8BZ Ham Member QRZ Page

    The most reliable piece of gear I have is my Kam Plus. I bought it new just under 25 years ago and it's been in daily use since then. Now it's limited to vhf and hf packet, but it has been used a lot on AMTOR and PACTOR back in the day.

    And during a stint in Navy MARS we sent MARS Traffic via Pactor. Anyone wanting to do a keyboard to keyboard PACTOR QSO on HF, email me for a sked.
     
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  11. N8YX

    N8YX Ham Member QRZ Page

    A number of my NEOH-area ham friends are starting to drag those old KAMs and PK-232s out again...we're playing with legacy modes such as Pactor on 10M. Look for them around 28.120 +/- QRM when the band is up.
     
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  12. WA9UAA

    WA9UAA Ham Member QRZ Page

    Sounds good, I joined a Pactor group on the book of faces; though, most of their activity is in Europe.
    73,
    Rob
     
  13. K8BZ

    K8BZ Ham Member QRZ Page

    Great to hear the news. Pactor is a very fun mode for conversational qso's.

    Another rarely known feature is that with a Kam+, and probably the 232's as well, your bulletin board is accessible in Pactor mode. In my case, my packet BBS call on the Kam+ is K8BZ-1. If I switch to Pactor mode on a 10 meter frequency another station could link with K8BZ-1 in Pactor mode and access the BBS just as if they were on packet.
     
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  14. WA9UAA

    WA9UAA Ham Member QRZ Page

    ETA: The problem with the DCD command seems to be related to the fact I am using a USB (FTDI Chip) adapter to the RS-232 port on the PK-232. I have since started running the PK-232 on a WIN 7 machine with a real serial port and the DCD problem has gone away. I'm still using LanLink Lite btw.
    73,
    Rob
     

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