Florida Ham Agrees to Penalty for Failure to Identify

Even bigger difference if Postal Inspectors were required to know PO counter operations, sorting procedures, operation and maintenance of all manner of sorting and packaging machines! Oh, and be expert with all commercial mail handling, labelling and franking equipment!

 

The more I tune in, tune around and listen I'm finding some of the stuff you all are mentioning. Today I heard some kind of religious net, and not sure I got the call sign right. Anyway, there wasn't any conversation it was just hold the mike key down and preach about sin and Jesus. From some of the experiences you all are mentioning I wouldn't have thought Hams to be a religious bunch.

Sheesh, you all mentioned mexican fisherman using the ham bands, pushy net operators, CBer-like bandits, foul language and I've heard Chinese...

Dear Lord FCC with your RF power smite that antenna tower of Babel, fan the flame of those finals to the legal limit, open up 10 meters spreading the good word from thy rulebook through the clouds of QRM.

I want to Believe in the Power!

 

I thought radio amateurs are not allowed to use profanity on-the-air.

Radio and television have their rules, but radio amateurs have rules for amateur radio.

The FCC rules are no profanity for radio amateurs, or not?

 

There is a Chinese shortwave broadcast sometimes down in the mud on 7200. They don't hear us with our relatively low power so they broadcast there. To them, they are not jamming anyone.

 

I thought not myself but I've heard a few guys who would make a prison gang banger sound like a nun. Every other word is F-this or F-that.

Seriously, I think most have that up in HS.

 

It turned on again, for them, when they got the unsolicited AARP card in the mail. IOW they are old enough to know better.

 

Confronted with a good lock, a thief becomes honest. If those on 7200 and a few other hotspots were confronted with a forceful personal reminder of their illegal activity, if they knew they could not hide behind their mikes, they'd clean up their acts. Anonymous is too often a scoundrel. But until it's brought to their doorstep, they think they are getting away with it — and apparently they are.

 

Some things never change.

Human interactions are complex and the use of profanity anywhere is a studied topic of social sciences. Obviously, overuse of it, long term exposure, dilutes its effects, makes it ineffective and just tedious.

Note the FCC does not go after the profane language being used on-the-air, just the procedural rules violations, ie, one-way xmsn, no ID.

It made me wonder, how long have personal conflicts and profane language been raised as a problem issue on open "party-line" communications channels?

Google came through for me. Check out "Telegraph and Telephone Age" from Sept. 16, 1916, page 436, Monitorial Dictaphone Observations by F.D. Murphy New York.

http://tinyurl.com/nqhajeo

See link above and excerpt below,

"The introduction of the monitor service into
the telegraph department was primarily to dis
cover why the efficiency of certain circuits was
not as good as that of others. It starts at the root
of the trouble and utilizes every legitimate method
to right wrongs. There never enters into the
investigation a personal antagonism against either
one under observation, and any monitor who is
placed in a position of such importance falls far
below his brother-man if he is not just and fair,
without fear or favor, in his diagnosis of a trouble
placed under his attention. It is therefore pre
sumed when a circuit is to be observed that an
unbiased report will be given of the actual find
ings.

The operator who wilfully antagonizes or jeo
pardizes the value of a circuit by constant bick
erings lessens the efficiency of the service, and
lowers his own standard in the eyes of the com
pany as well as of his fellow-worker at the other,
end. Here is where the monitor if oten called in
to get at the true inwardness of trouble.

Many operators fail to understand why they do
not get along as well as others do upon the same
circuit and often attribute the cause to the oper
ator at the other end. A soft answer oft turns
away a lot of unkind feelings and results in a
marked improvement upon the circuit.
The remark is often heard: “Oh, that operator
scraps with every one that he comes in contact
with,” or, “He will only work with certain oper
ators.” In this way operators of this class estab
lish an unenviable reputation which makes it nec
essary that a censorship be placed upon the
circuit.

Another inexcusable habit, is the use of pro
fanity upon a circuit regardless of the demoraliz
ing effect it has, aside from the fact that circuits
are often covered by female operators for whom
the users of such language do not seem to have
a particle of respect."

73 de John - WØPV

 

.....Identify...He broke the LAW??? What does that mean to someone that DOES NOT BELIEVE in the laws of God nor man...... Vote for The HenHillary she believes in Amnesty for Law Breakers....... I'm 66 years young, Catholic, Polish/Lithwah American, Born in the States, had 33 years 5 months and 3 days of FedService, retire 03 March 12, have a 5 # LongCoat ChiWarrior Chihuahua, a marine, buy 'stuff' from China, Get my coffee from VietNam, don't drive 55 mph in the 3 or 4th left lane, all my electronics is from China or Japan, buy fuel from Saudi, new to HAM and just received my e-License from the FCC this A.M. ! KC3GDY! I'm proud to be a new member of QRZ. Just my thoughts and a little about that!! I'll update my profile soon!!
I hope I'm welcome with this opening rant! Hope all is well All!! Semper Fi! Godspeed!!

 

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...you must not go out of the/your 'shack' much.........! Semper Fi! Godspeed!! (all said in defense of a 'Ham' newbie not the QRZ police!)

 

Interference and ham hi-jinks were heard on the air long before there was an FCC. In 1909 'Electrical World' applauded the beginning of regulation. See this article and the quotations below.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...isaster-let-uncle-sam-take-over-the-airwaves/

One has to admit that some of the antics of these Morse code boys are amusing, at least in retrospect. "Some amateurs deliberately sent false or obscene message, especially to the navy," Douglas notes. "The temptation to indulge in such practical joking was enhanced by the fact that detection was virtually impossible. Amateurs would pretend to be military officials or commercial operators, and they dispatched ships on all sorts of fabricated missions."

The navy didn't think any of this was funny, of course. During one cited emergency, naval officials complained that they had to fight with amateurs to get control of a frequency. When a coastal operator told a Boston ham to "butt out" of the signal, he was told to get lost right back.

"Say, you navy people think you own the ether," the amateur retorted. "Who ever heard of the navy anyway. Beat it, you, beat it."

As radio historian Jesse Walker observes, the government also resented these boys because they were better trained and had superior equipment. "The hams' anarchic meritocracy outperformed the navy's society of status," Walker writes, "sometimes relaying rescue messages that the official radiomen had missed or mangled. This didn't exactly boost the seamen's self-image."

But, despite their prowess, by 1909, a critical mass of opinion was moving towards regulation of the airwaves. Even Electrical World applauded the prospect in an editorial:

"It is high time to undertake friendly but extremely thorough regulations, for amateur seaboard stations are much in the position of amateur lighthouse plants, interfering with the legitimate safety precautions with respect to navigation, which are peculiarly the business of government. It may be contended that private persons have the right to experiment even with lighthouse lenses, but granting this, they should be compelled, and can be legally compelled, to desist from so experimenting as to interfere with navigation."

Ham Radio - Serious Business!

 

KC3GDY: Well, I obviously got out of the shack enuff to help your jarhead buddies!

Jeez, do your homework.

AND read...

 

"Anarchic meritocracy.."... Gotta love dat!

 

Speaking as someone on the 'other side of the political fence', I would like to add:

TOLERANCE DOES NOT EQUAL APPROBATION​

In the strength of our diversity other people will have beliefs that we disagree with. Part of our strength is the ability to respectfully say that someone is wrong, and still be able to work with them where we agree.

73
Jon
AF7TS

 

I have yet to see, in my over 60 years of life, a perfect presidential candidate, or perfect President. Every President has the right to forgive people in prison.

Welcome to the hobby and congrats to passing your test.