Putting words into my mouth? Yes, I agree the MC test is a joke. How are they going to fix that? It should be harder, of course. The question pool could be made larger. But to be fair and even it has to be some sort of multiple-choice test. But modern technology could fix a lot of the problems. The math and theory questions could be set up like a spread sheet. Instead of fixed numbers they should be randomly generated with the answers being calculated by the program that is giving the test and not SHOWN to the person. Make it fill in the blank -right or WRONG. Ask questions about the theory and make them acutally DO the equations. -not just memorize the right number for the answer. The band limit questions should be fill in the blank. If you are going to make someone memorize anything THIS is something they should memorize -not how the right answer "looks" in relation to the wrong ones on the test. I have to admit that I'm bad at memorizing numbers. If you asked me to write down the numbers on a fill in the blank test I'd have to REALLY think about them. But just looking at the test on QRZ, the right one is just obvious. The wrong ones just look wrong. People just memorize the 'shape' of the right answer. I know I do when it comes to these band limits questions. Maybe the test should be a computer program given out by the FCC or through the ARRL and people could download it and study it but they would have to take it at the VEC session under supervision. That would allow all sorts of interactive questions and such while still complying with governmental regulations about openness. But make it hard and more random. Give the test-takers a TIME LIMIT for god's sake. Let them use a built-in calculator in the test program and a scratch pad area. It realy wouldn't be that hard to fix up the question pool to make it both fair and tough. I wouldn't have a problem if only 50% of the people who applied were able to pass. It would not be that difficult for the VE's to have to load the test onto a room full of computers and sit the test-takers down in front of them and let them go. Keep an eye on them and let the computer do the evaluating. It's an idea. But make the darn thing about RADIO! not about one specific mode. The CW test is so out of date as a means of evaluating an amateur's skills and knowledge that is worthless as anything but a HURDLE to keep anyone who doesn't have an ear for dits and dahs out forever. Is that what anyone wants? Don't answer that. I know the answer from a lot of people -that is sad. A private little dit-dah club. It might as well be through the internet if you want to do dit-dah with someone across the world. Or over a land line. I wonder why there are no more advances in the art coming from the ARS. It's not what it is about for the past 20 years. It's Dit-Dah only. Make it about real knowledge. Maybe have a typing test of 50WPM as 5% of the grade. If you must have CW then make a small test for that and make it 5% of the grade too. But make the test so that no ONE thing is make or break. It's just not healthy for the amateur service. Everyone has different abilities and different things they are good and bad at. That is just the facts of life.