Fears Sweden's new driving regs may hit amateurs

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  1. G4TUT

    G4TUT Ham Member QRZ Page

    Fears Sweden's new driving regs may hit amateurs

    Sweden's national amateur radio society, the SSA, has written to the Government to point out the unintended consequences of mobile phone driving legislation on radio amateurs

    A Google English translation of the SSA post reads:

    We have previously written about the ban on the use of mobile phones in conjunction with driving on February 1.
    http://www.ssa.se/29036-2/

    In a letter to the Ministry of Food and Transport, SSA wishes to draw attention to the fact that the wording of the new legislative text may have had unintended consequences not only for us radio amateurs but also for the transport industry.

    SSA believes that the new law should be formulated so that it is clear that the prohibition does not apply to the hand microphone to a vehicle-mounted communication radio. The whole letter is available here:
    http://www.ssa.se/download/sektioner/iaru-myndighet/ovrigt/SSA_20180219.pdf

    SSA site in Google English
    http://tinyurl.com/SwedenSSA


    http://www.southgatearc.org/news/2018/february/fears-swedens-new-driving-regs-may-hit-amateurs.htm


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  2. AE7BT

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    Oregon passed a “no cell phone while driving” law that also affected hams because 2-way radios were not exempted.
    We are trying to amend this. (Meanwhile, every cop that transmits while driving gets a ticket...right?) :rolleyes:
     
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  3. K3XR

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    Have not researched this particular law but similar laws I have come across law enforcement and other emergency services are exempt which is a simple matter of common sense.
     
  4. AE7BT

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    Yeah, I exaggerated. They did exempt emergency services, but as usual amateur radio was not even on their radar.
     
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  5. K3XR

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    Did find a 2015 version of the Oregon bill which did exempt hams but apparently there have been some changes along the way including 2017 just not sure which is the current law.
     
  6. G1TWS

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    In the UK, Amateur and CB Radio and also Business Radio are exempt from the requirement for hands free operation. The legislation gives band limits which are the Cellular bands.
     
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  7. W6UXB

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    In California a directive has gone out to the CHP that a wired microphone attached to a mobile radio by a licensed user is exempt from the 'hands free rule' the only problem is that most officers have not read it.
     
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  8. WB8VLC

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    Oregon certainly is overly stupid in it's mobile electronic devices distracted driving law.

    Last weekend I was on my way to the Albany Oregon gun range for my first time to meet a fellow ham friend who practically lives there and invited me down for a visit.

    I had 2 rifles in cases in the back seat of my 4-runner and although my 10meter and 6 meter mounted GE Orion mobiles were turned off due to zero propagation an OSP TROOPER pulled me over as he claimed my antennas drew his attention.

    Although he saw my rifles in the cases all his comments and interest was directed towards my mobile radios and my mobile GPS asking why I had these items and at no time did he even show interest in the guns only the electronic devices even after telling him where I was going when he questioned me as to why I had mobile radios and a mobile gps unit.

    In the end he gave me a verbal warning about mobile Electronic devices pertaining to the Oregon Distracted driving law, even though the gps uses voice prompts he still lectured me as to not having the radios and the gps turned on while driving.

    He claimed that in the future after a public awareness grace period expires no more warnings will be given and I may as well remove the antennas and mobile electronics as they are a magnet to future stops by OSP.

    I'm sure glad that I didn't spend a lot of money on my mobile radios because in the end not using them mobile anymore won't be a big loss.
     
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  9. WD4ED

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    On what planet is an antenna probable cause? Using that logic it’s okay to pull anybody over at any time. Everybody has a cell phone right? And they don’t even have antennas. Can it be hands free? If not, then simply having a passenger is probable cause that you are committing a crime!

    That’s all stupid.

    Ed
     
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  10. KK2DOG

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    You guys just bogarted G4TUT's thread.
     
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