FCC nationwide rule compliance

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  1. N1FM

    N1FM Ham Member QRZ Page

    True, and:

    97.113(a)(3)(ii) An amateur operator may notify other amateur operators of the availability for sale or trade of apparatus normally used in an amateur station, provided that such activity is not conducted on a regular basis.

    "Calls to place an order for a commercial product may be made such as the proverbial call to the pizza restaurant to order food, but not calls to one's office to receive or to leave business messages since communications on behalf of ones employer are not permitted."


    "Bill Cross, FCC, Dayton 2009, said that Section 97.113 is in the rules for two reasons: It meets a statutory requirement and it is there to protect your frequencies from becoming the business radio alternative voice overflow, or 'BRAVO Service.' Because your spectrum is so valuable, if you let users such as businesses, TV stations, the National Weather Service or other users -- be they for-profit or non-profit -- use your frequencies to meet their communications needs, your frequencies will become their frequencies. All it takes is an allocation proceeding with the FCC, and your spectrum is gone. And you will be left whining about it in Internet chat rooms."


    True, the commercial companies have never heard of WL and the ARRL/WL Cartel is in charge of the hen house (LOL - that was for Lee's benefit). And the FCCs being sued constantly, so, either they're not paying attention, or they're looking at national groups like AMRRON who're organizing emcomm reactions to armed anarchists burning and looting, etc.

    While organizing, it's important to ID on time!

    "AmRRON has now grown to nearly four thousand radio operators, with members in every state, plus Puerto Rico and Canada. In January, 2014, AmRRON merged with TAPRN, making it the largest conservative mostly-Christian radio network outside of a faith-based organizational structure (such as Salvation Army and LDS)."


    Lawsuit by AREDN and amici vs FCC over the 5 GHz Safety Band:


    Appellant-Petitioners: The Intelligent Transportation Society of America (Nos. 21-1130; 21-1131), American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials (Nos. 21-1130; 21-1131), and the Amateur Radio Emergency Data Network (No. 21-1141).

    Appellee-Respondents: The Federal Communications Commission (No. 21- 1131) and the United States of America (Nos. 21-1130; 21-1141).

    Intervenors for Appellant-Petitioners: In addition to its role as an Appellant Petitioner (No. 21-1141), the Amateur Radio Emergency Data Network is appearing in certain of the cases (Nos. 21-1130; 21-1131) as an Intervenor on behalf of the Appellant-Petitioners. Continental Automotive Systems is also appearing as an Intervenor on behalf of Appellant-Petitioners.

    Oral arguments also coming up in AT&T v FCC --and so on....
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  2. N0TZU

    N0TZU Platinum Subscriber Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    Yep, your’re right I forgot that they had been eliminated.
  3. N1FM

    N1FM Ham Member QRZ Page

    eCFR ~continuously updated... No changes found for this content after 1/03/2017.

    § 97.113 Prohibited transmissions.

    (a) No amateur station shall transmit:

    (1) Communications specifically prohibited elsewhere in this part;

    (2) Communications for hire or for material compensation, direct or indirect, paid or promised, except as otherwise provided in these rules;

    (3) Communications in which the station licensee or control operator has a pecuniary interest, including communications on behalf of an employer, with the following exceptions:

    (i) A station licensee or station control operator may participate on behalf of an employer in an emergency preparedness or disaster readiness test or drill, limited to the duration and scope of such test or drill, and operational testing immediately prior to such test or drill. Tests or drills that are not government-sponsored are limited to a total time of one hour per week; except that no more than twice in any calendar year, they may be conducted for a period not to exceed 72 hours.

    (ii) An amateur operator may notify other amateur operators of the availability for sale or trade of apparatus normally used in an amateur station, provided that such activity is not conducted on a regular basis.

    (iii) A control operator may accept compensation as an incident of a teaching position during periods of time when an amateur station is used by that teacher as a part of classroom instruction at an educational institution.

    (iv) The control operator of a club station may accept compensation for the periods of time when the station is transmitting telegraphy practice or information bulletins, provided that the station transmits such telegraphy practice and bulletins for at least 40 hours per week; schedules operations on at least six amateur service MF and HF bands using reasonable measures to maximize coverage; where the schedule of normal operating times and frequencies is published at least 30 days in advance of the actual transmissions; and where the control operator does not accept any direct or indirect compensation for any other service as a control operator.

    (4) Music using a phone emission except as specifically provided elsewhere in this section; communications intended to facilitate a criminal act; messages encoded for the purpose of obscuring their meaning, except as otherwise provided herein; obscene or indecent words or language; or false or deceptive messages, signals or identification.

    (5) Communications, on a regular basis, which could reasonably be furnished alternatively through other radio services.

    (b) An amateur station shall not engage in any form of broadcasting, nor may an amateur station transmit one-way communications except as specifically provided in these rules; nor shall an amateur station engage in any activity related to program production or news gathering for broadcasting purposes, except that communications directly related to the immediate safety of human life or the protection of property may be provided by amateur stations to broadcasters for dissemination to the public where no other means of communication is reasonably available before or at the time of the event.

    (c) No station shall retransmit programs or signals emanating from any type of radio station other than an amateur station, except propagation and weather forecast information intended for use by the general public and originated from United States Government stations, and communications, including incidental music, originating on United States Government frequencies between a manned spacecraft and its associated Earth stations. Prior approval for manned spacecraft communications retransmissions must be obtained from the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. Such retransmissions must be for the exclusive use of amateur radio operators. Propagation, weather forecasts, and manned spacecraft communications retransmissions may not be conducted on a regular basis, but only occasionally, as an incident of normal amateur radio communications.

    (d) No amateur station, except an auxiliary, repeater, or space station, may automatically retransmit the radio signals of other amateur station.

    Displaying title 47, up to date as of 9/13/2021.
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  4. K8XG

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    If it is a Fully Operational Space Station, I sure hope they have the Death Star of Ham Radio doing the automatic repeating operations ;)

    Now guess which one of those do hot spots fall under repeating signals of others? Why they are Auxiliary operations and need to make sure they are not on freqs that Aux is not allowed on.

    A few years back myself and others were searching Brandmeister dashboard under Frequency and found many that were causing interference to Hamms Sats on the uplink. Someone else send a nice email about it and they moved. I have not heard all the Buzz about HotSpots interfering with Sats like I did 3 years ago.

    I wonder if the VMs will be searching D-Star, DMR, YSF dashboards looking for Hamms transmitting on freqs not allowed for auxiliary ?
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2021
  5. N1FM

    N1FM Ham Member QRZ Page

    Why do they all seem related somehow?
  6. WZ7U

    WZ7U Ham Member QRZ Page

    Cousin marriage?
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  7. N1FM

    N1FM Ham Member QRZ Page

    One of the cousins made this website:

    WWV MARS announcement 10 and 50 minutes after the hour:

    Interoperability exercises will take place and we will announce this before and during our exercices...


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