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  1. N0TZU

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    This isn't correct.

    Per the IEEE papers, the inaccuracy is due to high levels of conducted electromagnetic interference from switching devices, not the wave shape.

    Meters with Rogowski coils to measure current have positive errors (the customer pays more), those will Hall effect measurements have negative errors (customer pays less) and those with current transformers can be either but of a small amount.

    For residential customers this could occur for those with a lot of noisy switching on their lines, like grid tie solar panels with inverters.

    I'm sure the utilities are working with the meter suppliers to correct the problems. They are required by the state regulator (and commercial law) to have accurate measurements of what they sell.

    Food for thought: How do you know your old electro-mechanical meter was working accurately?
  2. KD4MOJ

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    Thanks! A friend of mine use to get free TV's from his Sony card and that's what got me started.

    I've never been one to keep a running balance on a credit card so it was very hard for me at first to charge everything that I purchased since I was a cash kinda guy. I've never had to pay Chase for anything and I've netted close to $3K over the last 6 or so years that I have been doing this. Once the points reaches around $500 or so, I just roll it over as a payment.

  3. KD4MOJ

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    The smart meters here (can't remember the brand at the moment) operate in a "repeater" mode and every neighborhood has a "collector" that carries the data via fiber. So the meters at the back end of a neighborhood don't have to reach the collector direct as the hops along the route until it finally reaches the collector. A friend of mine that works for electric installs them. The city runs it's own electrical system, probably one of the few in the nation.

    The smart meters operate in the 900Mhz band.

  4. N0TZU

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    It's not that unusual. Many cities in Colorado own and run their power utilities, and much of the rest is served by non-profit electric cooperatives. They have excellent service and the power is less expensive than the investor owned utility in the area. (Some are also building out their own fiber networks at up to 1Gb/s to every residence and business at a reasonable cost.)
  5. K0KUZ

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  8. K0KUZ

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    Dear People,

    My heart completely sank when I received the below email from the US Dept. of Agriculture. Despite enormous public outcry against this and an absolute onslaught of letter writing, phone calls, meetings, hearings, etc., etc., the USDA has decided to turn over one of our greatest National treasures to the Navy and allow for the testing of electromagnetic weaponry on the innocent animals, birds, wildlife and other natural habitat in the bio gem that is the Olympic National Forest in Washington State.


    This will be a 5 year testing period the likes of which no area in the US has ever experienced. It is an excruciating death sentence for the creatures of the forest let alone what might "accidentally" happen to any human inhabitants living near this area.

    This type of weaponry is able to melt eyeballs, disintegrate human flesh and of course other living beings, not to mention cause cancer, genetic damage, and harm the general well being of animals that use the magnetic fields of the earth to navigate for their food and getting around.


    We must bear in mind that secret military weaponry testing on human populations is also still completely legal in the US.

    If anyone is able to file an injunction or sue to stop this now would be the time.

    This group has put in a great effort to stop this. If you'd like to reach out to them on their website for any last ditch effort at stopping this...
    Save the Olympic Peninsula


    Dear Interested Party:

    We want to let you know that a decision was made to authorize issuance of a Special Use Permit that would allow the U.S. Navy to conduct ground-to-air training using mobile electronic transmitters from eleven designated roadside locations on the Pacific Ranger District of the Olympic National Forest for a period of up to five years.
    The decision adopts the Navy's 2014 Pacific Northwest Electronic Warfare Range Environmental Assessment in accordance with the Council on Environmental Quality regulations at 40 CFR 1506.3, to eliminate duplication by federal agencies. The decision is to select Alternative 1 as described in the 2014 Pacific Northwest Electronic Warfare Range Environmental Assessment with modifications. The decision also incorporates by reference analysis associated with the Navy's 2015 Northwest Training and Testing Final EIS/OEIS and its 2016 Record of Decision as well as other materials. The decision is documented in the 2017 Decision Notice and Finding of No Significant Impact for the Pacific Northwest Electronic Warfare Range, which can be found https://www.fs.usda.gov/project/?project=42759&exp=overview.

    Additional project materials may also be found at this location.
    In making the decision, we considered public comments received during the designated scoping, comment, and objection periods, as well as input received outside of these designated periods. The main concerns profiled were potential impacts to public health and wildlife. Additional to standard permit Terms and Conditions, the decision includes Forest Service Project Design Features and Navy Standard Operating Procedures to address public health/safety and resource concerns. Compliance with the decision will be ensured through the Special Use Permit administration process. Thank you for your interest in the Olympic National Forest.

    This service is provided to you at no charge by US Forest Service.


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  9. K0KUZ

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    SB 649 has been vetoed!!
    Monday, October 16, 2017 6:38 AM
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    "Donald" <banjodhl@yahoo.com>
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    Hi Donald,

    Just before midnight last night, California Governor Jerry Brown vetoed Senate Bill 649!! As you may know, the bill was the wireless industry's dream, as it would have blocked the ability of cities and counties to control the installation of microwave radiation antennas. If this legislation had passed, it would have then opened the door for the industry to take over in other regions.

    There are so many safe tech advocates who worked on this matter so diligently, from many different angles. While our movement did not yet have the resources sufficient to pull the trigger on a wide implementation of the Liability Action for California legislators, a targeted campaign was done in which legislators were provided a summary and how they will be held financially liable, should the bill pass.

    Moving forward, it will be key to make sure ALL legislators realize and understand across the board that they WILL be held to account as individuals -- so that nothing like this bill can ever come close to passing again. Because, as we know, the industry is not yet ready to throw in the towel.

    And, if and when the need arises, several thousand have already indicated participation interest in a Liability Action to address SB649 and or 5G deployment at the root cause of the problem. (Re-subscribe on our main page to indicate your interests.)

    Below is an email update from Paul McGavin (http://scientists4wiredtech.com/), who played an instrumental role in this battle victory.

    So on behalf of people everywhere, we express our sincere gratitude to Paul and the hundreds of activists and groups who led the way -- with a multitude of strategies and approaches being undertaken.

    * * *

    Hi, Josh et. al.

    The Fat Lady finally sang -- a sweet lullaby from the new veto recording artist, Jerry Brown:

    "the interest which localities have in managing rights of way requires a more balanced solution than the one achieved in this bill."

    Brown's veto message is here:

    Mercury News - October 16, 2017 at 12:25 am | UPDATED: October 16, 2017 at 1:41 am

    Time for a small victory lap with San Jose Mayor, Sam Liccardo . . .

    Thanks to everyone that showed up and helped with this fight. Special thanks to Harry Lehmann, Bruce Kushnick and Nina Beety for their excellent, substantial analyses and to all of the scientists who are publishing the truth about the hazards of RF/MW radiation exposures.

    I went to bed not knowing, but my wife woke me up and told me. This was six months of full-time effort for me. I can now resume my normal life.

    I agree with Bruce, it is time to cut off the FCC, AT&T and Verizon at the knees . . .

    Paul McGavin

    * * *

    Josh, Cal & the InPower Team
  10. AF7TS

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    As a datapoint, using an rtl-sdr dongle and the rtlamr software, I was able to decode the smartmeter messages in my neighborhood.

    The messages from my meter were transmitted very frequently (every few seconds) but only had a resolution of 1kWh, meaning the same message was transmitted over and over again.

    With a simple magmount antenna in my house I was getting data from meters all around.


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