Expired License - Retest

Discussion in 'Becoming a Ham - Q&A' started by W2AK, Oct 12, 2020.

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  1. W2AK

    W2AK Ham Member QRZ Page

    Hello all,

    I allowed my Extra Class amateur radio license to expire, it expired in June of 2017.

    From what I understand, if I go to a VE testing session and take the Technician exam, I am within the grace period in which the FCC will grant me an Extra Class license - in other words I don't have to retest all the way up to Extra Class again.

    I would like a VEC to let me know if this is correct information.

    Also, I live in Philadelphia and would like to attend a ve session nearby, or I am open to the possibility of taking it remotely as I understand is now possible.

    Any help appreciated,

    Tim
     
  2. KA0HCP

    KA0HCP XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    No, you cannot.

    §97.21 Application for a modified or renewed license grant.
    (b) A person whose amateur station license grant has expired may apply to the FCC for renewal of the license grant for another term during a 2 year filing grace period. The application must be received at the address specified above prior to the end of the grace period. Unless and until the license grant is renewed, no privileges in this part are conferred.
    https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-i...mc=true&node=pt47.5.97&rgn=div5#se47.5.97_121

    §97.501 Qualifying for an amateur operator license.
    Each applicant must pass an examination for a new amateur operator license grant and for each change in operator class. Each applicant for the class of operator license grant specified below must pass, or otherwise receive examination credit for, the following examination elements:

    (a) Amateur Extra Class operator: Elements 2, 3, and 4;

    (b) General Class operator: Elements 2 and 3;

    (c) Technician Class operator: Element 2.

    [65 FR 6550, Feb. 10, 2000, as amended at 72 FR 3082, Jan. 24, 2007]
     
  3. K1LKP

    K1LKP Platinum Subscriber Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    Any help appreciated,

    SORRY TO READ ABOUT YOUR HEADACHES.

    OK... HERE IS A LIST OF ARRL AFFILIATED CLUBS IN YOUR AREA

    I would like a VEC to let me know if this is correct information.


    PHILLY HAM CLUBS.jpg

    I WAS ABLE TO OBTAIN THE ABOVE INFO FROM THIS LINK:

    http://www.arrl.org/find-a-club

    THIS LINK IS REALLY GREAT BECAUSE IT HAS A VERY
    POWERFUL SEARCH ENGINE AND WILL FIND
    A CLUB VIA A.........TOWN NAME / ZIP CODE / AND WHAT NOT.

    IF TIME ALLOWS, I SUGGEST THAT YOU
    VERY CAREFULLY READ
    THIS LINK.

    http://www.arrl.org/news/anchorage-vec-asks-fcc-to-grant-lifetime-credit-for-expired-licenses


    FOR ADDITIONAL HELP REGARING THIS MATTER ,
    CHECK OUT THIS LINK.

    http://www.arrl.org/contact-arrl

    73 AND WELCOME BACK TO HAM RADIO.

    K1LKP


     
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2020
  4. K7JEM

    K7JEM Ham Member QRZ Page

    Yes, all you have to do is take the tech test, and provide proof that you previously held an extra license, you will be granted an extra. Make sure you check with the ve team doing the test so that you can bring the documents to them.
     
  5. KU4X

    KU4X Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    Hi Tim,

    There is no "grace"period for the application of previous license credit.

    So yes, you can take the Technician test (Element 2) and receive credit for Elements 3 and 4 upon presentation of evidence of an expired Amateur Extra license.

    §97.505 Element credit.
    (a) The administering VEs must give credit as specified below (see the chart at the link below) to an examinee holding any of the following license grants:

    (b) The administering VEs must give credit to an examinee holding a CSCE for each element the CSCE indicates the examinee passed within the previous 365 days.

    [79 FR 35291, June 20, 2014]

    https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-i...6236af4b&mc=true&node=se47.5.97_1505&rgn=div8

    Make sure you check with the VE team leader prior to your test session to see what kind of documentation will required to prove your prior license status.

    Good luck and welcome back!


    Regards,
    -Bruce
     
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2020
  6. N0FIM

    N0FIM Ham Member QRZ Page

    I am an expired General Licensee and taking the Technicians test next week. When I pass the test, will I be granted a General license upon posting in the FCC site or will I need to apply to get General Privileges? This subject is hard to pin down on a definite answer. I am wanting to purchase HF transceiver and get ready but want to make sure I will have the privileges. Any comments would be helpful.
     
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  7. K7JEM

    K7JEM Ham Member QRZ Page

    You need to present proof of a previous general license when you take the technician test and have the VE team check the proper box on the form so that you will be issued a general.
     
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  8. KU4X

    KU4X Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    +1 on what JEM posted.

    Plus, make sure you check with the VE team prior to taking the Technician exam as to what proof they will accept to verify your previous General license.
    If you show up with something that doesn't meet their approval, you will be out of luck.


    Regards,
    -Bruce
     
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  9. W4DIP

    W4DIP Ham Member QRZ Page

  10. N0FIM

    N0FIM Ham Member QRZ Page

    Thank you all for lowering my blood pressure on this subject. I have covered this now with the VE team locally and have an FRN issued approx. 10 days ago. Will see you all on the air in a couple of weeks hopefully.
     
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