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Exotic Dark Matter Detector Deep in an Italian Mountainside Picks Up Unexplained New Signal

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by WJ4U, Jun 18, 2020.

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  1. WJ4U

    WJ4U Subscriber QRZ Page

    The XENON1T detector, tucked into an Italian mountainside to search for signs of a mysterious substance in the universe called dark matter, has picked up a new bump in the data that cannot be explained by current models.

    An analysis of this excess signal, led by physicists from the University of Chicago, the University of California, San Diego, and the University of Zurich and vetted by the entire XENON collaboration, suggests that it may be evidence of new physics—or an unexpected radioactive contaminant. The results were announced in a seminar on June 17, 2020.

    full story here: https://scitechdaily.com/exotic-dar...mountainside-picks-up-unexplained-new-signal/
     
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  2. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    Not radio.

    Not amateur radio.

    Interesting to some (such as myself for non-ham purpose), but really is a space.com piece...

    73
    Chip W1YW
     
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  3. KN1M

    KN1M Ham Member QRZ Page

    Yes, interesting.
     
  4. K3XR

    K3XR Ham Member QRZ Page

    It's an Ancient Rome chariot pizza drive-up window.
     
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  5. IDEALTELSIZ

    IDEALTELSIZ QRZ Member

    interesting .
     
  6. MW1CFN

    MW1CFN Ham Member QRZ Page

    Radio isn't a single-issue subject. It's inherently scientific, and embraces very many disciplines. Indeed, disciplines of the variety you have in mind are an anachronism.
     
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  7. N8TUW

    N8TUW Ham Member QRZ Page

    Anything with a signal is always interesting.. explains at lot of signals out the on the airwaves..
     
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  8. W7UUU

    W7UUU Director, QRZ Forums Lifetime Member 133 QRZ HQ Staff Life Member QRZ Page

    Please drop the arguments if this is "amateur radio or not" [comments have been removed]

    This article was approved by QRZ site management/ownership staff and its suitability in this forum is not up to debate.

    No further arguments regarding this, please

    Dave
    W7UUU
     
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  9. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    Not debating the interest to some.

    Just a point of information: it is not a 'signal'. It is a 'noise' source; they used the wrong word in the news story on science daily...

    Signals have information, noise has none. Some do debate the requirement of information content. In general, engineers require information content to define a signal.

    There are many forms of noise, and oftentimes, a wide bandwidth is a 'requirement' in defining 'noise'.

    My point is that this 'signal' is not an intelligent message but a natural process.

    What we get from this astronomical detection is an unexpected source of noise, that may not be accounted for by known physics.

    That's what makes it interesting.

    BTW the means for detecting the 'particle' are state of the art hardware. Not RF at all, but worth checking out the detectors and the materials used to generate the photons which 'trace' the particle.

    Its done by the particle hitting xenon atoms which then give off light, which is detected by very sensitive light detectors, similar to CCD's.

    73
    Chip W1YW
     
    Last edited: Jun 19, 2020
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  10. N0TZU

    N0TZU Platinum Subscriber Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    Maybe they need to turn the preamp off. :D
     
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  11. K3XR

    K3XR Ham Member QRZ Page

    Kinda splitting hairs here. Radio related or not many may find it interesting others can move on. If it showed up in the forum General Announcements or Ham Radio Life it would still be on the Zed and no harm is done. Dave is correct...give it a rest.
     
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  12. K1LKP

    K1LKP Ham Member QRZ Page

    CHIP HIT THE NAIL SQUARELY ON THE HEAD.

    YES.....YES.. IT IS A NATURAL PROCESS.

    IN TUSCANY..... IT IS NOW


    “vendemmia” TIME........ WINE MAKING SEASON.

    THE NOISE IS THE RESULTS OF ALL MY PAESANO'S PACKING THE
    GRAPES FOR PROCESSING......DEFINITELY.... "DARK MATTER".......

    PRAISE THE LORD FOR GOOD GRAPES AND ITALIAN RED WINE.........SALUTE.

    AND

    Cent’Anni (
    “May you Live 100 Years”)


    WHEN I WAS A YOUNGSTER, OUR FAMILY MADE 200 GALLONS
    OF WINE EVERY SEASON.

    LOTS OF NOISE AND DARK MATTER.

    73 AND HAPPY FATHER'S DAY.
     
    Last edited: Jun 19, 2020
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  13. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    Sorry,

    I don't see the anachronism.

    Maybe you meant something else.

    73
    Chip W1YW
     
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  14. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    The Italian astronomers are very good at this type of hardware and experiment. That is why there is not any debate that they have SOMETHING that's interesting.

    However--

    A good working adage is 'once is an anecdote, twice is a trend'.

    IOW more 'detections' would be in line to confirm and explore what is 'interesting'.

    73
    Chip W1YW
     
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  15. K8VHL

    K8VHL Platinum Subscriber Volunteer Moderator Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    The Moderator has wisely put this debate to an end and, in the spirit of international cooperation, it is important to know that it is usually not a good idea to bring a dull knife to a gunfight here in the colonies.
     
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