Exclusive - Yaesu Upcoming DR2 Repeater

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  1. M1MRB

    M1MRB Ham Member QRZ Page

    July 15, 2017

    ICQ Amateur/Ham Radio Podcast's Martin Butler (M1MRB/W9ICQ) and Chris Howard (M0TCH/N4CTH) can exclusively reveal information in relation to Yaesu's upcoming DR2 Repeater after visiting the Ham Radio 2017 event at Friedrichshafen, Germany

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    Yaesu DR-2XE Repeater

    This new model includes support for these new key features: -

    • IMRS (Internet-linked Multi-Site Repeater) allows multiple DR2 repeaters connect to over the Internet.
    • Digital Group ID, which is similar to CTCSS tones used on analogue FM transmissions and is a way of separating users into up to 99 talk groups, using either the new FT-70 radio or some of the other C4FM radios with an upcoming firmware upgrade.
    • Digital Personal ID, which is a selective calling system to allows a user to call another user based on their call sign.Remote control, through the inbuilt second receiver.

    An important point to note however is that the DR2 does not support Wires-X, so is not a replacement or upgrade for the DR1 repeater. The DR1 will continue to be produced for those wishing to grow their Wires-X network.

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    ICQ Amateur/Ham Radio Podcast's Martin Butler (M1MRB/W9ICQ) interviewing Paul Bigwood (G3WYW) of Yaesu regarding the DR2 Repeater

    A full interview with Yaesu will appear in the next episode of the ICQ Amateur/Ham Radio Podcast - Episode 242 to be released on Sunday 23rd July 2017. This exclusive interview coincides with the shows 9th Birthday. Make sure you don't miss the interview with Yaesu regarding the new DR2 Repeater by joining our episode alert mailing list - https://www.icqpodcast.com/subscribe-to-newsletter/
     
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  2. W5GM

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    I would like to see a lids off review where they remove the top cover and let us see the guts of this new box. The DR1 was such a letdown. Can the DR2 transmit 45w full duty cycle without going up in flames?? Inquiring minds want to know.
     
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  3. KF5FEI

    KF5FEI Ham Member QRZ Page

    Ed Zachary. The repeater operators around here are having to run amps because the original (con)Fusion repeaters won't run at full power with any sort of actual traffic. Bear in mind around here 50-100 watt repeaters are common.
     
  4. SA6CKE

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    Doesn't seem to support DMR Tier II though.
     
  5. N5REL

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    I sure hope Yaesu takes the items below into account on the DR2X. These are all DR1X shortcomings I've personally experienced (I maintain two of them).

    1) W5GM already covered the PA. Well documented issue near and far.

    2) The quirky behavior of the internal PL decode board. Now you're in the repeater, now you're not. Oh there you are! Hey where did you go? Best solution is to use an external encode/decode board such as a TS64.

    3) Firmware updates are a beatdown if your repeater is rack mounted. Definitely not a one man job. Unhook all the jumpers. Take the repeater out of the rack, take the 18 screws out of the repeater case and pop the top to put the repeater into programming mode, etc. Why cant this function be implemented on the touchscreen? Maybe put a USB connector on the face of unit to dump the firmware into it. Make it just a little easier on us, please?

    4) Like many of us that use an external controller (multi port controller RLC3 in my case), will the DR2X have more functionality with an external controller without the need for the Arcom interface unit and outboard PL encode/decode board (see my note 2).


    The four items above are the major questions for me. Now, again, kudos to Yaesu for bringing a very affordable package to the table. And the trade-in / upgrade program for the DR2X is certainly very enticing too. IMHO the DR1X wasn't quite ready for the spotlight and many of us found out issues the hard way. I hope that they were addressed in the DR2X.
     
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  6. N5ICK

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    You should really run amps on the repeaters anyways! Turn the power down on the repeater to save the transmitter! You need to do that on most non yaesu repeaters anyways!
     
  7. N9TES

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    Because it's not a DMR repeater.
     
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  8. WA9WVX

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    When adding a RF Amplifier to a Digital Repeater make absolutely sure that the external RF Amplifier is Linear Class AB1 because if you use a standard FM Class C RF Amplifier, it will cause Spurious Emissions and Harmonics across the 2 m or 70 cm Bands.:eek:

    Dan
    WA9WVX
     
  9. WW4GW

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    Item 5: RF front end is wide enough to drive a truck thru. Unless this thing sits in your back yard, expect interference from other RF at the site. We have had to fashion narrow filters for the RF receive to keep them quiet.
     
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  10. KF6AJM

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    You know it's still two mobile radios in a box. Junk, just like the DR1. This is a solution looking for a problem. Yaesu really should've followed existing standards rather than keeping things proprietary...

    Probably this thing has been released because they have a newer, better version of the dual band radios inside of it (newer model they've otherwise released as a mobile).

    A dual-band repeater? Give me a break. Buh-bye front end. I realize it can only do one band depending on how its programmed, but still.

    A local club has 4 of these things online, and nothing but trouble with them. The $500 price point for clubs was such crap. Everyone bought these things, and they aren't worth $100.

    Caveat Emptor. You get what you pay for. Garbage in, garbage out. This platform won't survive with D-Star and DMR out there. Why bother?
     
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