ex-K1MAN is SK

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  1. W4HM

    W4HM Ham Member QRZ Page

    First of all I want to welcome KN0DE into the hamateur radio ranks. It's a great hobby with many facets and operate the aspects that you personally enjoy. Also ignore the curmudgeons which I think you already do.

    Secondly I never knew or worked K1MAN and hold no pleasure in hearing that he became an SK earlier this month. He really did dislike the ARRL (I do too but I'm a member) and started his own competing organization but had little success with it. He did transmit daily bulletins just like the ARRL did/does but I think that what got him into trouble with the FCC was his transmitting information considered to be of pecuniary interest, a big no no.

    The other hamateur that ran into trouble with the FCC was Herb Schoenbohm KV4FZ on St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands who frequented 14.313 mc in the 1990's. In my opinion it would be very unfair to put KV4FZ into the same bad guy category as K1MAN. Herb is a very good CW operator, DXer, contester and all around good guy. I don't know Herb personally and have never had an eyeball QSO with him but I've worked him many times over the years on 160 meters.

    I've been a hamateur radio operator since 1989 and passed the 20 wpm code test in 1991. It wasn't that hard for me because I had already learned CW beginning in 1965 as an SWL and had been listening to commercial CW utility stations as well as hamateurs for many years on CW. I'm proud to have passed the 20 wpm CW exam like K7JOE but I have never let it inflate my hamateur radio ego or lead me to look down on others that haven't, couldn't pass it. I think that this post is the first time that I've ever mentioned passing the 20 wpm code test.

    I never had to draw out a Colpitts or Hartley oscillator diagram or pass a "non" multiple choice test at the nearest FCC office because it was no longer required when I decided to get my ticket. Nor is it the fault of a new Extra class operator that the 20 wpm code test or any speed code test is no longer required. And recently I've looked at the latest Extra class exam pool and contrary to what I've seen posted here on QRZ and elsewhere it's not easy to rote memorize the question pool.

    But I have heard quite a few new General and Extra class operators repeatedly ask really shockingly stupid questions on the air and also use CB lingo like 10-4, S20, have roger beeps, terrible audio, etc. And when one politely in the Elmer tradition tries to help them become better operators they respond in a very negative hostile manner.

    Yes some (maybe many) long licensed General, Advanced and Extra class radio operators do act like psychopaths on the air and in social media venues such as here on QRZ but in my personal observation and research most of the real crazies on the air including on 7.200 mc did not pass a code test. And they have no respect for the hobby or themselves.

    But is it a dumbed down testing process or general societal devolving problem?
     
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  2. W4HM

    W4HM Ham Member QRZ Page

    First of all I want to welcome KN0DE into the hamateur radio ranks. It's a great hobby with many facets and operate the aspects that you personally enjoy. Also ignore the curmudgeons which I think you already do.

    Secondly I never knew or worked K1MAN and hold no pleasure in hearing that he became an SK earlier this month. He really did dislike the ARRL (I do too but I'm a member) and started his own competing organization but had little success with it. He did transmit daily bulletins just like the ARRL did/does but I think that what got him into trouble with the FCC was his transmitting information considered to be of pecuniary interest, a big no no.

    The other hamateur that ran into trouble with the FCC was Herb Schoenbohm KV4FZ on St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands who frequented 14.313 mc in the 1990's. In my opinion it would be very unfair to put KV4FZ into the same bad guy category as K1MAN. Herb is a very good CW operator, DXer, contester and all around good guy. I don't know Herb personally and have never had an eyeball QSO with him but I've worked him many times over the years on 160 meters.

    I've been a hamateur radio operator since 1989 and passed the 20 wpm code test in 1991. It wasn't that hard for me because I had already learned CW beginning in 1965 as an SWL and had been listening to commercial CW utility stations as well as hamateurs for many years on CW. I'm proud to have passed the 20 wpm CW exam like K7JOE but I have never let it inflate my hamateur radio ego or lead me to look down on others that haven't, couldn't pass it. I think that this post is the first time that I've ever mentioned passing the 20 wpm code test.

    I never had to draw out a Colpitts or Hartley oscillator diagram or pass a "non" multiple choice test at the nearest FCC office because it was no longer required when I decided to get my ticket. Nor is it the fault of a new Extra class operator that the 20 wpm code test or any speed code test is no longer required. And recently I've looked at the latest Extra class exam pool and contrary to what I've seen posted here on QRZ and elsewhere it's not easy to rote memorize the question pool.

    But I have heard quite a few new General and Extra class operators repeatedly ask really shockingly stupid questions on the air and also use CB lingo like 10-4, S20, have roger beeps, terrible audio, etc. And when one politely in the Elmer tradition tries to help them become better operators they respond in a very negative hostile manner.

    Yes some (maybe many) long licensed General, Advanced and Extra class radio operators do act like psychopaths on the air and in social media venues such as here on QRZ but in my personal observation and research most of the real crazies on the air including on 7.200 mc did not pass a code test. And they have no respect for the hobby or themselves.

    But is it a dumbed down testing process or general societal devolving problem?
     
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  3. K2UM

    K2UM Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    Thomas (W4HM),

    My compliments on everything about your post ... what it says, its balance and the care with which it was written. I got my first ticket in 1959 as a Novice and then later a General (yep, at the FCC regional office in Detroit, Michigan) and then had a long layoff from the hobby along the way (Military service, grad school, marriage, family ... everyone knows the drill). I had to retest in the late 80s-early 90 for all license classes. I've seen changes in the hobby as with all things in life. Some I approve of and some I don't. I do agree with one of your hypothetical assertions at the end ... I think we are seeing a larger change in societal norms and expectations, many of which concern me a great deal.

    In the end, this is a hobby and some like to make it about something much larger than that. I have flown for many years and I run across some of the same "I had it tougher than you" syndrome in that hobby (saw it in military aviation as well). I think it is a part of the human condition for some reason.

    I welcome all the new blood and worried for a good while that, like me, the hobby was "grading" quickly and wondered about how long this hobby could sustain itself. At the same time, I also am concerned about some of the expectations being brought into the hobby by SOME of the new blood. Like many, I have wondered many times why a few cannot read a manual, don't understand the manual, or don't want to learn about how it works and why it works. But, maybe I am showing that I also not immune to "being an old guy" with a narrower mind then I should have.

    Anyway, Thomas, that was a fine piece. And, this is only my second post about anything on QRZ.com since I have been a member since its earliest days.

    Thanks, again.
    Greg K2UM
     
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  4. K2UM

    K2UM Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    Well .. I needed to take more "care" in my posting ... "grading quickly" was supposed to be "graying quickly" ... I could blame auto-correct, but I won't! ;)

    Greg K2UM
     
  5. K5XS

    K5XS Ham Member QRZ Page

    Joe,

    I agree QST is "full of ads," but I think that's a great thing. I enjoy scanning them and seeing what's new and what's available. I also take heart knowing there is advertising revenue coming in to the ARRL.

    And I respectfully disagree with your notion that "QST magazine is a disgrace" or that it has "no real content."

    I'm thumbing the June edition that just showed up in my mailbox. It starts with a great six-page illustrated article on lightning protection. A five-page article on the Amateur Radio Emergency Data Network is next, followed by a two-page article on 6-meter polar sporadic E propagation. Next is a four-page piece on constructing a 80-6 meter rhombic antenna. Then comes a three-band coupled-resonator dipole project. There's also an in-depth review of a new Yaesu transceiver, an article on a new Raspberry Pi controller, a couple of other equipment reviews, a pretty good Q&A piece on why UHF connector splices affect impedance more than loss and on how foilage affects RF. Then comes a great technical piece on how PC-board traces behave as inductors, followed by some Field Day operating-focused articles.

    You obviously disagree, but I think QST is a great magazine for hams.
     
  6. W0PV

    W0PV Ham Member QRZ Page

    Not many seem to object to the similar one-way "bulletin service" broadcasts that have been on 1860 Khz AM from WAØRCR for years.

    Undoubtedly it was the content of Baxters broadcasts, rather then the actual RF transmission in ham bands, that was the actual target. Less "politically correct" and therefore objectionable, especially in New England with proximity to the ARRL HQ.

    The League and the "Old Boys' of ham radio have always been very keen on censorship and opaqueness, which seems to extend throughout the organization, from elections up into the board room.

    Ironically, with the decline in commercial SWBC, now there are a few enterprising hams taking over those facilities and keeping them feebly alive! And on the proper frequencies for that activity.

    73 de John - WØPV
     
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  7. K7JOE

    K7JOE Ham Member QRZ Page

    It used to be a great magazine for hams. Today, QST sets a low bar when talking "content". Pick up a QST from the late 1970's/ early 1980's and compare to today. How many pages, how many articles. Even the font is now "easy-read" size, causing fewer articles to get printed. Kinda like VOA news in special english...

    The magazine back 25 years ago also had advertising, however, ads were relegated to side-bars and the back of the magazine. It was not the majority of what the members pay for. Today QST reads more like a picture book of ads than a technical and radio operation oriented magazine. It's gone way down hill from what it once was technically. How many months in a row do they need articles on how to build various coax fed dipole antennas? Maybe it's the audience -must be lots and lots of techs, generals and extras who never been on HF and either can't or simply don't want to build even a simple dipole antenna.

    Back in the day, QST had competition from Ham Radio magazine, CQ magazine, 73 Magazine and a few others. They had to stay relevant with new material. Now it's all re-hash of what's already on the internet. No new ideas. No competition to inspire.

    Take the field day topic - what a waste of time - download the packet, something like 16 pages of bureaucratic rules and regulations of what you can and can't "do" and nearly nothing ..NOTHING...about how or where to actually go out and get on the air.
     
  8. KD7IIC

    KD7IIC Ham Member QRZ Page

    That's the end of that battle...:p
     
  9. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    QST changed to reflect and entice the majority of hams today (in the US) which are--wait for it--'just in case' hams. These are techs that seldom get on the air and define HR by their HT's. OTOH, the majority of ARRL --members-- are old (over 60) and not Techs. Its a fine line to attract one while not alienating the other.

    The ARRL is smartly courting greater OTA activity , in any form. QST says that squarely. Witness the cool 'checkered picnic table' cover for the June issue.Its Field Day!

    But I have to be honest: being old, and technical, there's not a lot in it for me. I actually read it FOR the ads!

    73
    Chip W1YW
     
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  10. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    This is purely a result of two factors: 1) the old (not merely aging) demographic; 2) younger generation not buying (mostly paper) magazines.

    I recommended a while back that the ARRL partner or buy out Fred (QRZed) so as to re-capture the ear of hams.

    Hams still read--but they are reading QRZed. Not CQ, Not QST.

    ARRL's business plan invokes major generation of revenue through hard-copy publication. Obviously that approach has been 'disrupted' by the internet as a delivery mechanism.

    The on-line QST is pretty cool BTW. So the transition is there. But older hams , while fewer as magazine subscribers, insist on hard-copy.

    Ultimately its a conflict of technology with demographics.
     
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