DX Web Sites, Good or Bad?

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  1. N2EA

    N2EA Ham Member QRZ Page

    Without a doubt, international spotting has caused a level of awareness of the dx activity which allows more stations to get there. It's a two edged sword, though. More people know, more people show up at once...pileups are more difficult for the guy on the other side. Of greater concern is that many hams think they should CALL the dx, just because they hear a whisper of him in there, and know the call from packet. A great many people..particularly on 40 80 and 160...can be heard calling when the dx is transmitting. They obviously can't hear the guy!
    40 may be the worst, because you can hear a station weakly, with a low dipole....but you're probably 40 dB (that's 10,000 times) weaker than the stations HE can hear.
    On balance, it still pays to tune the bands, be there at the right time, and have low angle antennas. I think there are more stations which are better equipped...particularly on 40...than there were 10 years ago. A KW and elevated GP doesn't quite cut it on the LP these days. I find myself waiting in line behind more guys with beams than previously.
     
  2. Guest

    Guest Guest

    At least he hasn't discovered DX nets!
     
  3. ka1eze

    ka1eze Ham Member QRZ Page

    I never understood the idea of dx clusters and sites. To me it's like cheating, I find hunting around and finding something a great deal of the enjoyment. Now rigs will tune in the dx for you also from what I've read!



    If I were on the other end, being a rare contact, I actually wouldn't want the pileup either. Sure they're making the distance, but really didn't discover me!



    Now there are times when you have to have predetermined meetings, but for just making contacts, and especially for rewards, I just don't get it!



    Don't take offense, I may not know other valid reasons that make sense for someone else. It just would spoil it for me personally.



    Rick
     
  4. KK5DR

    KK5DR Ham Member QRZ Page

    More than once, I have become a "victum" of a "spot", of rare DX on a cluster.
    It seems that DXers that use the cluster, tend not to "check" the frequency to see if there is any ONGOING QSO there. They just know that there is "rare" DX that was spotted there. So, these guys fire up and call there, regardless.

    I dislike clusters allot.
     
  5. N2NRV

    N2NRV Ham Member QRZ Page

    Hey you never know what you can find on 10M at midnight. I worked Maine using 25 wats cw with a dipole in my attic from Central NY on SKN back in 1995.
     
  6. Midwest

    Midwest QRZ Member

    Clusters certainly have changed the hobby. Tuning and listening skills used to be more important than having a powerful transmitted signal. The hours saved by the clusters have saved a lot of time for busy hams but not without side effects. A high country count has lost most of its glitter. The same has happened to the pride one can take in a clean sweep in SS and most of all in hunting counties. Early recipitents of worked all county cerificates reflected working RESIDENTS in over 90% of the counties. Today, the majority of counties are earned by working mobiles who claim to be traveling through the counties. The certificate simply reflects hanging out on nets and working these mobiles. It doesn't mean much anymore, especially when many mobileers admit to leg pulling on their claimed counties. It is funny to them but tarnishes the award. Some awards such as WAS or WAZ with residents only still demonstrate good achievement, especially when they are done with no outside help such as spotters or nets. One learns after a while that others really don't care much about our awards so I guess the main judge of value is ourselves. 73,
     
  7. KG6AMW

    KG6AMW Ham Member QRZ Page

    Agreed. For me listening for dx is like fishing. When you snag one, its worth the wait.
     
  8. Guest

    Guest Guest

    If you want a challenge,Try working vhf/uhf without Propagation web pages,you will miss 90% of your contacts,waitng 3 min. for an amp to warmup? haven't you heard. Its called the transistor. Stop Whining & Enjoy The Hobby
    >(Ø¿Ø)
     
  9. K2WH

    K2WH Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    I wouldn't say I'm spoiled, but I do like HF very much but, I cut my teeth on weak signal work on VHF and UHF for 30 years and got tired of working only 1500 to 2000 miles with the max of everything, power and antennas. Got 45 states confirmed on 6, 32 confirmed on 2.


    Therefore, I am not whining as you so eloquently put it. I do enjoy the hobby very much. As to there not being any propagation web pages, sorry, there are. They are out there. Just look at the DX Summit web site it has propagation information up thru microwave!


    As to the 3 minute warmup on the amp, sorry, it's a requirement for the tubes. For my money and simplicity of operation, transistors can't come close to the power and simplicity of a tube amp. not yet at least.
     
  10. G3RZP

    G3RZP Ham Member QRZ Page

    They do make pile ups grow. They also take some of the listening skill away from DXing, although the mutual self help started with VHF DX nets and repeaters 20 or more years ago.

    I'm a Luddite, so I don't use them.
     
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