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DMR licence or not

Discussion in 'Digital Radio, DMR, Fusion, Wires, DSTAR' started by K5BOU, Apr 22, 2021.

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  1. K5BOU

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    I find some articles on the web saying: you don't need ham radio license to operate DMR mode since is via the internet and not air wawes. Thought?
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2021
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  2. KP4SX

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    Well, there are some 'services' that are ham (not HAM) radio oriented where you can communicate via an interface on a cellfone or computer and not use a radio at all. The graphic user interface (GUI) is made to look like a radio.
    Clearly you don't need an FCC license to do that but the promoters of such programs may require that you be a licensed ham because that is the community they market to.
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  3. VK4HAT

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    Needs a license for ham DMR because its not all contained on the internet. There are linked repeaters and such where all traffic over DMR/Bransmiester can eventually be transmitted over the air. Things like Zello where its all contained on the interwebs does not require a license.
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  4. WA9ZZZ

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    Digital Mobile Radio (DMR) as the name implies uses radio for communications. Repeaters may be linked via the internet, but it is basically an over the air radio system.

    So, you do need a license to use it. It was designed for land mobile use, so if you have a business and an LMR license you don't need a ham license. For use on the ham bands you do need an amateur radio license, of course.

    If you have any links to those articles, please post them so we can figure out what they are talking about.
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  5. N3CLA

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    I could see there not being a need for a license if it is strictly Internet-based (neither the TG nor the endpoints have any way of hitting a radio transmitter). For example there could be a private call or a TG that is Internet-only between two stations using Dudestar (computer app that replaces the radio). But then I would ask - why given there are already a bunch of other VOIP apps.

    But if there is any chance it would "leak" out to the ham bands, one would need the license.
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  6. W4EAE

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    If it doesn't get into the amateur bands, it's basically none of our business. Even if someone setup an internet-only DMR network (O, but why?) and someone decided to link it to transmit on a amateur band, the FCC would take issue with the individual who did the linking; not on all of the other users who were told they were using an internet-only network.

    A variant of DMR is used in Europe in a license-by-rule service similar to FRS in the US. Digital on FRS is illegal though.
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  7. DL2JML

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    I suppose that you are referring to PMR446. It allows several digital standards, one of which is standard DMR. But the service does not allow any kind of repeater, so it cannot be linked to the Internet.
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  8. KJ7OTM

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    Yes, you definitely have to have at least a Tech license to do it, OP.

    That article was wrong, unless pertaining to a country other than USA that may have different laws.
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  9. KY4GD

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    I found some articles on the web that say that the world is flat. I am not ready to say that it is, but some folks apparently do believe it.
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  10. K5BOU

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    I feel in today's world we can't ask any more questions without getting sarcastic answers. I was under the impression ham radio was above this level, but I guess some don't.
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