I have a FT-817, but it is just a TOY!!! Don't think I can make any real contacts on it, but it hears good. Maybe if someone was across the street, I could work him! So QRO is the way to go when you want to actually log contacts. I use my 2KW linear for almost ALL contacts, as I would be DIRT WEAK if I didn't. there are plenty of groups that cater to QRO!