I tried surfing twice on the north shore of Oahu since we were staying there anyway, and 30 years ago I wasn't bad (I'm worse, today -- it's kind of like skiing, where the next day everything hurts ) but was still a Haole (sp?), and they don't readily welcome visitors even on the waves. Then again, the kids there learn to wind surf when they're old enough to stand up and they're so good at it, no way to compete with that. In a group of tourists, such as taking the bike ride down from Haleakala and wearing your brakes out, everyone's nice since they're all not natives. And that is a GREAT bike ride, even though pretty expensive. I've known a lot of KH6 hams over the years and one thing I've always heard about "conditions" there is when the bands are open, it's a good place. When they're not, it's really lonely even on HF, being 2500 miles from anyplace else.