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  1. KC2UGV

    KC2UGV Ham Member QRZ Page

    It is extremely unlikely the internet will fail. It might fail in certain areas, but it is guaranteed to be up somewhere. If it isn't, ham radio wont be there either :rolleyes: And, most likely us either.
  2. N2VHZ

    N2VHZ Ham Member QRZ Page

    Echolink in Europe.

    I remember a few years ago where Echolink and other internet interfaces were VERBOTEN in DL - land. I was living there and had DA2KW as my callsign, then when they allowed Echolink, it exploded with stations over night practically!!!
    I remember looking at the Echolink DL station list one day, with about 20 stations listed, then a week later with about 50, then a week later with 200, and so on.
    They just recently allowed 6 meters for all licensed DL Hams to use, years after they switched to digital terrestrial T.V.
    In Europe. "They" are slow with certain things over there and I am sure eventually it will all work out, and remember, France has territories all over the world that the law may apply also !!!
    73s. Ken, N2VHZ
  3. KA5LQJ

    KA5LQJ Ham Member QRZ Page

    Ham radio is a "diamond"......

    It has many facets. Now, I love CW, I love AM, SSB, and FM. I'd like to at least TRY D-Star communications. No, I wouldn't spend a $1,000.oo on a 2m/70cm mobile rig, but there's nothing said about a dual band, D-Star capable HT. We have a very fine D-star system in Shreveport, LA. I've seen and heard it demonstrated. I like what I heard. Now, I'm NOT about to give up operating AM or FM on 10 meters just because of D-Star. "Experimentation" is what got me started in 'electronics' back in the late 1950's. Nothing like an old, boat anchor with tubes glowing on a cold, Winter night working 40 cw, LOL!

    For those who wish to operate D-Star, I say go ahead, if AM or ssb, PSK-63 is your "bag", more power to you. I don't favor one mode over another nor do I say that contesting, disaster nets, round tables, county-hunting or anything else is wrong, other than deliberate interference or cursing on the air.

    I'm half Cajun French and the guys in Paris always have to be "different". I could care less, LOL! Let them eat cake!

    Respectfully submitted,

  4. WY3X

    WY3X Ham Member QRZ Page

    Ah, but you're sadly mistaken. The internet failed miserably during Katrina, and amateur radio quickly took it's rightful place as a replacement for emergency communications until companies could get technicians on the ground to build back the lost infrastructure. Amateur radio ops were there when they were needed most.

  5. KG4KKN

    KG4KKN Ham Member QRZ Page

    Wait, one city or one region gets hit with a hurricane of once-a-century proportions and suffers some internet outage and you call that a miserable failure?

    What about the REST of the internet that carried on just fine, thanks? (That sort of resiliency being the point of the internet, you know).

    For that matter, I disagree with your statement that the internet was that bad off due to Katrina. There were plenty of stories at the time (and still available online via archives) about the heroic efforts taken by the staff at DirectNic in New Orleans to keep their company online despite the terrific damage, and those stories were posted during Katrina from Katrina and afterward over the very net you called a failure. So, it still worked. Ham radio had little or nothing to do what what that particular company managed to do. As it shouldn't: that was a business doing what it needed to do unfettered by rules about commercial traffic and the like.

    Anyhow, it's amusing anyone cares one wit about what France is doing when they were the inspiration for the whole "freedom fries" thing. It's their airwaves in their country. They can do what they want. It's France. They'd outlaw radio if they felt like it.
  6. KE7VZW

    KE7VZW Ham Member QRZ Page

    nothing proprietary is the future of ham radio
  7. WX7CAR

    WX7CAR Ham Member QRZ Page

    Back to basics?

    The biggest thing I always loved about radio is the ability to operate when other means of communication fail. (Internet, cellular, land line, etc.)

    IMHO, making radio dependent on the technology it was meant to rise above in an emergency, is really shooting yourself in the foot!

    D* would really be useful in a tornado, flood, hurricane, etc. stricken area. Uh huh.
  8. SV9OFO

    SV9OFO Ham Member QRZ Page

    Mais c'est ne pas un vocodeur japonais , c'est un vocodeur Americain!!!:D:D
    Last edited: Jun 30, 2010
  9. KC2UGV

    KC2UGV Ham Member QRZ Page

    Funny. The internet worked fine for me during Katrina. As for the majority of the planet earth as well.

    In fact, several companies still had internet connections there. Some horror stories about being stuck in the data center, keeping them online still abound in IT circles. And of course, they still had internet there. Spotty, but it was there.
  10. N0AZZ

    N0AZZ Ham Member QRZ Page

    This thread is worthless should be deleted all the non- D-Star guys bitching about Icom and a new mode.

    But then look at the country from where this thread was started about and maybe you should all move there if you like there radio laws so well, oh yeh and there policies.
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