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Cycle 25 Shocker

Discussion in 'Ham Radio Discussions' started by N2AU, Jul 1, 2020.

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  1. WN1MB

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    Coincidentally, it's that time of year again for computer modeled hurricane path predictions. Spread The Fear.
  2. W3ATV

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    Funny thing is that they still can't tell me if it is going to rain tomorrow, let alone something 93 million miles from here.

    I stopped reading after the third sentence when they said "however forecasting these features accurately in advance remains elusive." Why bother reading any further.

    One thing for certain- I will tell you with some degree of accuracy how good the next cycle will be, right after it is over. LoL! Check back on the Zed in 11 years! (If I am still alive!) :D:p:cool::rolleyes::)
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  3. KK5JY

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    Meanwhile, some of us have already been making good use of the propagation we have, even with zero SSN. :)

    30m and 40m have had some really nice DX recently, and the ES season has also provided some fantastic openings.

    AR becomes a lot more fun (and far more interesting) when one is willing to give up depending on 15m and 20m. ;)
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  4. NL7W

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    You are an optimist.

    A flux of 69 is not so hot... the Sun is so dull.

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  5. KA4DPO

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    The abstract posted by the OP says, the SC25 Prediction Panel indication that SC25 will be similar to SC24. I think he may have misinterpreted the bottom line. The green dot in the last chart represents the panels consensus.

    You might want to re-read the document. The prediction panels assessment is that SC25 will be similar to SC24, as represented by the green dot in the last chart.
  6. WR2E

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    I read the whole thing and though they were saying two different things... in one place they said same as last, and in another they said much higher... I don't think they know what they are saying! I need to read it again.

    It appears that the PURPLE dot is showing the prediction of this paper, and the GREEN dot is what the international NOAA/NASA co-chaired Solar Cycle 25 Prediction Panel is predicting.

    Oh,,, one more thing... the RED dots in Fig 4 are where they 'backtracked' their Hilbert Transform method to see how well it fit the historic reality and that's why they're saying they can predict the future. If the shoe fits...
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  7. KK5JY

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    My logbook says otherwise. ;)
    20m and 15m have certainly had poor performance, no doubt.

    So I just don't use them. :)

    The trick is to use the bands that work. I'm not sure why people struggle with that, but that's their station's challenge. :)
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  8. AF2Z

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    The prediction panel completely blew the SC24 prediction, saying it would be more active than SC23. So much for consensus.
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  9. W2VW

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    Additionally, there are a lot of older operators who believe the coat hanger works as well as a monobander on 10 when it's open fallacy.
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  10. WR2E

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    I think the most basic premise of that paper could be stated as:

    The smaller the deltaT, the greater the next cycle.

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