there is one thing you have got admit and I admit it also, just before FT8 came on the bands, in the spring of when was it about 6 years ago??? well in the winter, there was a lot of PSK,OLIVIA ACTIVITY and CW qso's all over the bands. Just as soon as FT8 came on the bands and people started finding out about FT8, slowly the bands started getting quieter and quieter, pretty soon, there was hardly any DIGITAL and CW activity. I'm in Vermont and shortly after FT8 , in the summer of 2016, all my friends that I used to chat with on PSK switched over to FT8 and now a few are coming back to PSK,CW,etc. and why? Because they say it's boring and just sending signal reports, no conversation. I think FT8 is great if you want to work all-states in less than a week and dxcc in 2 weeks, but I like the challenge of cw.