CW is a mode with protocols.

Discussion in 'Straight Keys - CW Enthusiasts' started by WB2WIK, Jan 21, 2021.

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  1. US7IGN

    US7IGN Ham Member QRZ Page

    And third - when some woodpeckers calling DX, poking in the cluster, and not listening to either DX or whoever he answers (
     
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  2. DD5RK

    DD5RK Ham Member QRZ Page

    You can download

    ethics and operating procedures for the radio amateur
    https://www.iaru-r1.org/on-the-air/code-of-conduct/versions/
     
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  3. KI7LQM

    KI7LQM Ham Member QRZ Page

    Reading some of this makes me reconsider even bothering to do any of it.

    If you're not an expert right out of the gate, don't bother is the message I am getting. That may not be what you are meaning to say, but it is, at least to me, the tenor of the remarks. "Do it my way or get out." There is far too much of that in our society right now, and I was thinking this would not be the place to see it. I get the impression that some of you guys were perfect when you started out. Gosh, that's amazing. But most regular human beings aren't like that, and find that there is a learning curve in all activites.

    So long, and thanks for all the fish.....
     
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  4. N0NC

    N0NC Ham Member QRZ Page

    Some Information that was once sent out by the ARRL to all new novices. I guess they stopped after the no-code licences came about. I remember getting one when I was a novice lo those many years ago before internet.

    http://atcweb.com/tsn/Accent.pdf

    73, Chuck
    N0NC
     
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  5. KG7WGX

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    Well, there is this - https://www.itu.int/rec/R-REC-M.1677-1-200910-I which can be downloaded in a language and format of your choice. See Part II - General Transmission Rules.

    There are many references for "informal" protocols, such as - https://www.skccgroup.com/member_services/beginners_corner/ which was also used as part of "The Road to CW".

    However, you should be aware that, while the "@" character (the newest Morse character) exists, as does the formal definition for the use of <AR>, many amateurs don't know about these and simplify things according to their personal tastes.

    It is a hobby, and it is supposed to be flexible. Part of the challenge in working someone is trying to figure out which protocol he is using. I believe in "imitation is a sincere form of flattery" and mimic what he is doing, rather than try to force my style on him.

    You get a more harmonious outcome. ;)

    (I have not watched "Crossfire Trail" more times than is healthy, despite assertions to the contrary.)
     
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  6. WB2WIK

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    There's lots more.

    The Art and Skill of Radiotelegraphy is a really good book which was "sold" for years; the author, N0HFF, is now a silent key and evidently he or his estate allowed it to be freely reprinted and circulated by anyone, so it's a free download from several sites, like this one: https://www.qsl.net/w9aml/documents/TheArtandSkillofRadioTelegraphy.pdf (I was a contributor to that book.)

    But regarding norms and standards, the ITU has plenty of them! We used to have to purchase copies of these, or maybe get lucky and find them at a library, but today they're all free downloads from ITU.

    Look for ITU-R M.1677-1, etc.

    To me, this is kind of like learning to drive a car (or anything). Having a license doesn't mean you actually know how to do it, and mistakes are noticed and potentially lethal. In ham radio, mistakes aren't lethal :) but they are noticed, and following simple protocol which can be observed by simply listening to a few hundred complete contacts will result in more answers, more contacts, and probably more overall enjoyment of the hobby.
     
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  7. WN1MB

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    Odd. I've noticed that operating anomaly, too, and find it both puzzling and disconcerting.

    I don't recall ever hearing it back in the late 60s during my novice heydays, nor in the years that followed, 'cept for the past couple of years.
     
  8. WN1MB

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    Where? Well first, all over the Internet:

    http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=how+to+call+cq+on+cw

    Secondly, the ARRL Operating Manual.
     
  9. KG7WGX

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    Not to pour gas on something, but if there is so much concern for operating protocols, how is it that contesters get a pass?

    If you hear CQ NA [callsign] , with some research you can find out that this means

    CQ NAQP DE [callsign] K

    and that the operator is too busy trying for points to be bothered with protocol, let alone have a QSO.

    So, listening tells you a lot. And you learn what a contest sounds like and leave it alone, unless you want to jump in, do the exchange, and then get out of the way.
     
  10. WA1GXC

    WA1GXC Ham Member QRZ Page


    And the Amateur Extra operator, master of all worldly knowledge, operates illegally in contravention of FCC 97.119(a)
    by omitting required station callsign upon completion of the contact.

    CW. SSB. All the time.
     

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