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Confounding the skimmers

Discussion in 'Ham Radio Discussions' started by K0HB, Sep 7, 2019.

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  1. K1LKP

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    73 - K1LKP
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  2. K4KYV

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    But that doesn't mean everyone has to send machine perfect CW as with a keyboard or electronic keyer. Individual variations in sending make CW interesting, just as people have distinctive handwriting and not everyone types out all their written messages on a keyboard. If everyone sent perfect code, working CW would be pretty boring.

    Reminds me of a story of a young fellow sitting for the CW test when they were given by the FCC, in a post office building with marble walls and tile floor, and a lot of echo. The code was played through the speaker on a portable tape machine and no headphones were provided. The examinee complained to the FCC examiner about how hard it was to read the code due to the poor room acoustics. The FCC examiner replied, "Yes, that was pretty rough. Kind of like copying code over the radio."
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  3. WZ7U

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    Confounding the scammers sounds like a whole lot more fun.
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  4. WF4W

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    you gotta find the right group - the SKCC guys are incredibly accommodating. Only catch is that you gotta use a straight key, bug, or side swipe.
  5. WX7P

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    How about a new horror movie:

    "Skimmers" where everyone who uses a machine on CW heads explode like in the old movie "Scanners".
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  6. KY5U

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    I thought this was about email address skimmers. I disguise my email and put a fake address in the document for skimmers. I use:
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2019
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  7. AE8W

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    I lurked this thread long enough ... take technology including the "art" of contesting for what it is. It reflects the current state of the art as applied to ham radio and fits the spirit of investigating and experimenting technology in ham radio. In my opinion (what else do you expect "here"), because contests are not QSOs but base information exchange and is automated in certain modes, it goes without saying that call signs should be decoded & conveniently displayed for easy picking.

    However, be careful what you wish for. Artificial Intelligence and expert systems are coming and fast. I'll wager that within 2 years undetectable application of AI in ham radio will be used to perform the same task a skimmer + the information exchange for contests fully automatic. Let the operator take a nap. (I just watched a news broadcast showing a Tesla going down the highway at~70 with both the driver & passenger asleep. The state police indicated that this is no law against this.)

    May as well add in that the ability to decode crappy CW. AI can just as easily be used to send less than perfect machine code as a method of being covert that a real live awake human is on the key.

    So there ... BOOM! Done!! Skimmers obsoleted and no longer needed.
  8. W3WN

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    Ugh. You had to bring that movie up.
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  9. W9FL

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    Old age and treachery will always defeat youth and exuberance.
  10. W9FL

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    He might be hard of hearing.

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