Censured ARRL Director Dick Norton at the Yuma Hamfest on HamRadioNow

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  1. KL7SB

    KL7SB Platinum Subscriber Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    I have seen the same, and agree.
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  2. WY7BG

    WY7BG Ham Member QRZ Page

    Organizations are golems. Left unsupervised, they invariably go rogue and become completely self interested. Constant vigilance is required. It's great to see that hams are working to reverse the trend toward this within ARRL. I agree that all directors who approved this, or went along to get along, should be voted out.
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  3. K7NSW

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    Interesting opinion - hope nobody paid for it. It is all philosophy and no legal basis for any of it. HOA restrictions are contracts people enter into when they buy into a subdivision governed by deed covenants and restrictions - or some such name. What is allowed? What can you do? What can they do? Read the papers you signed at closing. All of these contracts are different so generalizations are of little value. What - you did not read the papers you signed? Or you did but disagreed and closed the purchase/sale anyway? Really? Hope you are smarter next time. And don't rely on anything this guy posted.
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  4. KC8VWM

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    I suspect you're responding without reading and understanding what was actually posted.

    When there is a law that supersedes what any HOA contract says, it simply doesn't matter what any HOA contract says, regardless how often you read the papers before closing.

    An HOA cannot enforce any rule written into any contract that is against the law.
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2018
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  5. ND6M

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    Actually, they can.
    Thats what judges are for.
  6. KC8VWM

    KC8VWM Moderator Volunteer Moderator QRZ Page

    So you're suggesting an HOA can discriminate against minorities because a judge says so.

    Like I said if it's something illegal, the HOA can't enforce the rule.
  7. ND6M

    ND6M Ham Member QRZ Page

    Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Puleeze, that comment is just plain STUPID!
  8. AJ4XM

    AJ4XM Ham Member QRZ Page

    Having watched this video 2 times now, and read all these comments and opinions, I can see why everyone is confused about so much. No he did not get the wording of the ARPA correct. That you can see just by reading the proposed legislation. And at this point it is just proposed and has not passed both houses nor signed by President and interpreted by the FCC.

    But I think he got the gist of the matter close enough for discussion. It is far from a perfect proposal and if it does become law will leave a lot of wiggle room in some places. After a few court cases more of it will be settled. At least if it gets to that point we have something in writing to work with in future years.

    I am much more concerned about N6AA's lack of detailed knowledge on most of the things he was asked and talked about. As a member of the Board of Directors, I would expect him to have clear yes/no information on many of these things. After all these are the people that we as ARRL members have elected to represent us and report back to us. (Still unclear how much reporting they can do before it is considered a no-no). But I am very encouraged by his openness and willingness to talk about whatever issues and ideas members came up with at this event. It is clear that many of the people asking questions or commenting on them really did need correct answers that Dick simply did not have. I hope that he watches this video and makes notes on the ideas and questions that came up. Then he has something concrete to go back to HQ and find out about and some positive input to make and see how it might work.

    At least in Dick's area they have a Director who is involved and trying to be more involved with the membership. I am in the Southeast and our elected Director was removed from the Board, basically because he had the guts to speak his mind. He never publicly criticized or refused to follow Board decisions or policies. But when asked how he voted or what he thought about an issue was honest. As someone who voted for him I would expect nothing less. But he was replaced by someone the Board just picked and put in the Director position. The current, unelected Director, was never forthcoming in his talks at Hamfests when he was an elected Director before. Now that he is an appointed Director he is no better.
  9. KG5WLK

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    Interesting topic, makes me thankful I don't live in an HOA or have any deed restrictions here.
  10. KJ4AUQ

    KJ4AUQ Ham Member QRZ Page

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