Censured ARRL Director Dick Norton at the Yuma Hamfest on HamRadioNow

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  1. KN4AQ

    KN4AQ Subscriber QRZ Page

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    Dick Norton N6AA, the ARRL SW Division Director, is at the center of the dust-up (Firestorm?) at the ARRL Board of Directors. He's the director who was censured in a special Board Meeting last fall for what the Board said were inappropriate comments at the Visalia DX convention the previous spring. He's also the Director that Hudson Division Director Mike Lisenco N2YBB said was partly responsible for a 'toxic environment' at the League. Lisenco's comments came during a Hudson Division web Town Hall in early 2018, with a link from this QRZ.com discussion. (Note that the audio recording of that webinar is pretty bad, but it's also pretty interesting if you can tough it out.)

    In this HamRadioNow episode, Dick Norton discussed his censure and the ARRL Board Code of Conduct, among other things, at the ARRL Forum at the Yuma AZ Hamfest in February. HamRadioNow's host David Goldenberg W0DHG recorded the session.
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  2. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    With due respect, I hear no toxicity in Dick's talk, and yes, I listened to the whole thing. I found the discussion factual and almost devoid of any personal bias.

    Actually, a good assessment of the board meeting it would seem, and the issues facing the ARRL and Part 97, including HR555.
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  3. KC8VWM

    KC8VWM Moderator Volunteer Moderator QRZ Page

    I found some of his comments pertaining to ARPA to be inaccurate and not factual.

    For example, "getting permission" to install an antenna at an HOA is not a factual statement.

    The law is your "permission."

    Providing "notification" to an HOA of your intention to install an antenna would be a factual statement, but that isn't what was said.
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  4. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    I believe Dick is paraphrasing K1VR's comments, probably worth checking K1VR's web posting. It can be found on the 'Zed.

    Dick wasn't reading from a script and talked for over 90 minutes. Surely that entitles him a certain amount of slack.

    Chip W1YW
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  5. K4AGO

    K4AGO Ham Member QRZ Page

    And tell us, just how much "slack" did you cut the ARRL when the took appropriate action and censured Dick Norton when he made comments that were clearly out of line? Don't bother to respond, we already know the answer.
  6. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    I assume you mean 'they', not 'the'....

    Typical, IMO, fascist-type comment John. You should know better. Assertion along with denial of response-- So doeth Il Duce...

    A: Quite a bit. Clearly Dick cut them slack when he dropped the episode, don't you think?

    Go read my posts. You might learn something.

    What do you make out of these 97 minutes, John?

    Chip W1YW
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  7. W0PV

    W0PV Ham Member QRZ Page

    Seems like quibbling over any differences between "getting permission" and seeking "prior approval", the latter being the verbiage in the ARRL published ARPA FAQ.

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  8. KC8VWM

    KC8VWM Moderator Volunteer Moderator QRZ Page

    Not exactly.

    There would already be prior approval and it's called the law.

    At one points in the video, (If you actually did watch it) you will note he mentions that an HOA can "suspend" that so-called permission indefinitely.

    That's not what I would term as quibbling" over semantics. It's plain wrong and inaccurate information.

    Besides the idea that you do not need the HOAs "permission", the HOA would also have no such legal authority to "indefinitely suspend" anything whatsoever for that matter. It would be illegal for them to do anything like that.

    If ARPA is law, they "must" accommodate antennas.
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  9. NU4R

    NU4R Ham Member QRZ Page

    Piedmont Airlines!?!? I worked for Piedmont! 1981 until...the PIT POS took over. Then just "hung out" with whomever was signing my paycheck until 2012.
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  10. W1YW

    W1YW Ham Member QRZ Page

    But the time scale for decision is not defined, and therefore it can be out off for years, decades. You know this.
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