CB’rs on 28.000Mhz plus? What can be done about this?

Discussion in 'Ham Radio Discussions' started by WB4JHS, Oct 9, 2019.

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  1. W9RAC

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    Freebanders is a polite for "Rogue CBrs" meaning they hold no license OR hold a license which is inadequate for the area, AKA lid. As such they are required to roam the bands "freely" which allow them to transmit as a non license holder, legally in those designated areas. When they go astray infringing into unauthorized areas as in Amateur Bands or others they become a nuisance AKA QRM. All licensed stations should make a effort to combat their infringement into licensed spaces. 73 Rich
  2. KC2SIZ

    KC2SIZ Ham Member QRZ Page

    Hmm. Maybe you're hearing this dude:

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  3. K9STH

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    Sorry, but such a comment, made by an official, does represent a "legal" definition unless contradicted by a higher authority or rescinded by the person making the comment.

    A parallel situation might be if you witness an illegal activity and you do have a reasonable means to stop that activity. It is your choice to stop, or not to stop, that activity. Are you breaking the law by stopping the activity? At least in most jurisdictions in this country, stopping the activity is NOT breaking the law!

    Glen, K9STH
  4. WZ7U

    WZ7U Ham Member QRZ Page

    What, he got the order presented backwards that's all. :D
  5. K3XR

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    I think the focus may be on the word "any" when it should be on the word(s) "radio communication or signal".

    Let's say for example your neighbor just purchased a new flat-screen TV and when they turn it you receive a strong signal on 29.600 the FM simplex channel. Does that mean as long as that signal is operating on that frequency you can't interfere with it? "No amateur operator shall willfully or maliciously interfere with or cause interference to any radio communication or signal".

    What if the local power company is operating on their assigned frequency, however, they are also emitting a strong signal on a frequency assigned to the amateur service. Their equipment is not functioning properly. As long as that signal is present and you want to use that frequency are you prohibited from doing so? "No amateur operator shall willfully or maliciously interfere with or cause interference to any radio communication or signal."

    You have a repeater in your area that is used for emergency communications and there is an unlicensed signal that frequents the repeater. Are you required to stay off the repeater as long as the unlicensed signal is occupying the frequency? "No amateur operator shall willfully or maliciously interfere with or cause interference to any radio communication or signal."
  6. WZ7U

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    Sounds like the FCC needs to visit this issue too.
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  7. N0IOP

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    The current legal and regulatory situation is that CB stations are licensed by rule. That is to say, that a license is automatically and implicitly granted provided that certain requirements are met. Notable among these is the requirement for a type-approved transmitter.

    The use of licensing by rule is not unique to CB. Most marine band stations are also licensed by rule, except those commercial vessels that are obliged to carry a radio by law, and those vessels that operate outside U.S. waters. MURS and FRS are other examples.

    This is in contrast to unlicensed spectrum such as some of the ISM bands and certain low power uses.

    The difference in practice is that operators exceeding, say, the CB power limits are ipso facto unlicensed and can be issued a NAV for unlicensed operation, which carries greater penalties than exceeding authorized power would by itself.
    Last edited: Oct 14, 2019
  8. VE3TMT

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    Don't cut the green wire!
  9. K4PIH

    K4PIH Ham Member QRZ Page

    I think the definition of "lid" is off by a wide margin. A "lid" is some new inexperienced ham who doesn't know how to properly operate and tries the patience of other hams until he/she learns the general rules.

    A free bander knows better and is intentionally being a pain.

    However wrong they may be, free banders are art least using radios.
  10. WA5VGO

    WA5VGO Ham Member QRZ Page

    A lid is simply a poor operator. It has nothing to do with the length of time they’ve been in the hobby. There are lots of lids that have had a ticket for decades.
    KM4ZDM, W4POT, KE0GXN and 3 others like this.

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