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  1. Guest

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    "A LIBERAL IS A CONSERVATIVE THAT HASN'T BEEN MUGGED YET!"
     
  2. K6UEY

    K6UEY Ham Member QRZ Page

    What I got from the story was the first choice of Democrats was to always stand in line for a FREEBIE....
    Has any of the OT's noticed,Generally some one with an Amateur ticket was of a conservative nature for many years,it was unusual to find a Ham Democrat,now it seems to be just the opposite. It would be interesting to see a study as to why that has occured,is it the lowering of the entry standards ?? Maybe it has to do with the Liberal Socialism being taught in public schools. It seems to have taken place in the last 10 or 15 years the balance has changed.  [​IMG] The average age is around 40 for todays Hams,so that may be part of the answer.
     
  3. KC7ATO

    KC7ATO Ham Member QRZ Page

    The solution to US energy problems is staring us right in the face and so far I guess I'm the only one that sees it. First, for a period of one year we suspend EPA restrictions on power plant emissions so coal can be used. Second, we open ANWAR for oil drilling and production (the Caribou will learn how to cope) and we STOP all oil shipment of North Slope oil to Japan. Let Japan buy Middle East oil and pay the price. Third, all old US oil fields should be reviewed for possible recovery using injection or other methodology. Within one year we would be able to reduce our oil imports enough to Bankrupt most of the Arab countries that are totally dependant on oil sale revenues. Why am I the only person to understand this? One year is all it would take. 
     
  4. N0OV

    N0OV Guest

    ATO

    This is a good short term solution. US industry must also expand development and deployment on hybrid vehicles to reduce dependency.

    There has to be a way to cost effectively apply this technology to larger vehicles Americans love so much.

    If this is not done, we will exhaust our reserves and be back in the same boat -- begging the Arabs for Oil!
     
  5. KC7ATO

    KC7ATO Ham Member QRZ Page

    LNU

    I agree we need a "crash program" to develop better and safer vehicles. If just a fraction of the NASA budget was invested in more efficient engine design we could increase the "CAFE" mpg ratings instead of planning trips to the Moon and Mars! My suggestions for a "one year program" are intended to be used as an "incentive" to OPEC to be more "reasonable" or face "Bankruptcy".
     
  6. K6UEY

    K6UEY Ham Member QRZ Page

    In my estimation I don't think this country would dent the oil sales of the opec countries. For one thing the US citizens would refuse to voluntary reduce consumption,do you think Las Vegas is willing to go dark ?,and what little we reduce our imports could easily be made up with increased sales to China and India who are becomming more and more dependent on imported oil to support the new industries.Once our reserves are depleted we no longer have industry but we also have no military power and would have to go begging to the world to bail us out. We are easy targets to spend money on other countries, but I do think they in a reverse situation would be far more frugal.
     
  7. W5ALT

    W5ALT Ham Member QRZ Page

    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC7ATO @ April 20 2004,16:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The solution to US energy problems is staring us right in the face and so far I guess I'm the only one that sees it. First, for a period of one year we suspend EPA restrictions on power plant emissions so coal can be used. Second, we open ANWAR for oil drilling and production (the Caribou will learn how to cope) and we STOP all oil shipment of North Slope oil to Japan. Let Japan buy Middle East oil and pay the price. Third, all old US oil fields should be reviewed for possible recovery using injection or other methodology. Within one year we would be able to reduce our oil imports enough to Bankrupt most of the Arab countries that are totally dependant on oil sale revenues. Why am I the only person to understand this? One year is all it would take. [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
    So present your economic evaluation. If it's a sure thing, there should be someone willing to help you with it. Of course it's obvious that all of the people who have looked at doing those things didn't find an easy solution.

    Just how much do you propose to reduce emission standards from coal fired generators? What is the price of coal and how large is the supply? How much will it cost to transport it to where it is needed and what fuel will be used to transport it?

    How much oil is in the ANWAR and what recovery methods will be needed to develop and recover it? What are the risks, economically and environmentally? What is the quality and composition? What are the transportation charges?

    If we stop oil shipment to Japan, who will supply the trade oil to us? How much difference in transportation charges will there be? (I assume you are aware of the trade arrangments, right?) How do you propose telling the public they get to pay more because of the increased transportation costs?

    Which fields, specifically, do you believe have not been reviewed  for possible enhanced recovery? What methods do you propose and what will be the economic impact? What type of injected fluids do you propose? What will be the increase in operating costs due to corrosion, pumps, compression, etc? How will the additional needs be fueled and what efficiency is needed to maintain a level oil price?

    Why are you the only person? Well, answer the above questions and maybe we can figure out.

    73,
     
  8. KI4BDW

    KI4BDW Ham Member QRZ Page

    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">it was unusual to find a Ham Democrat,now it seems to be just the opposite[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

    It appears from many of the posts that many of you think I am a democrat. As I've stated already, I am neither, although I am not a big fan of Bush (numerous reasons, but when it comes to the bottom line, neither party cares about the Constitution unless it profits them, and I'm sick of it). I'm conservative on some issues (abortion, gun control), and more towards the liberal side on others (free speech, privacy, etc.), however, it is next to impossible to keep the many complex beliefs of people regarding laws in a linear path.

    Also, about the &quot;damn liberal tree-huggers&quot; the reason why they didn't want Alaska to be explored was because the part to be explored was national forest which can't (by law) be touched. Most of the rest of Alaska can be explored and may need to, but more money should be focused on exploring alternative fuels. Our pockets may suffer a little in the short run, but in the long run, it will save us a whole world of trouble. Apparently Bush isn't really concerned with this (and I doubt Kerry is as well).

    73 KI4BDW
     
  9. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Do not forget to write your anti-BPL letters,
    encourage new amateur radio participation and generally be nice
    to one another. That is all.
     
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