Brendan Prize - what has been tried?

Discussion in 'VHF/UHF - 50Mhz and Beyond' started by M0AGP, Jun 28, 2020.

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  1. M0AGP

    M0AGP Ham Member QRZ Page

    I am aware of the successful and amazing 2m transatlantic two way contact in 2019 on FT8. I was wondering what has been tried so far?

    I know EME isn’t allowed, but have people on both sides with EME arrays and full legal limit power tried on FT8?

    It’s always interesting to hear about the heroic efforts behind these things!
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  2. WA9SVD

    WA9SVD Ham Member QRZ Page

    Many, many have tried over the years,:rolleyes: but none have (so far) succeeded.:confused: There are too many description to list here, this might actually be a good place to say "G**GLE" is your friend, or other search engines, if you can wade through the gazillion results.

    For those that don't know, (in a nut shell,) the Brendon Trophy is for a CONFIRMED terrestrial (satellite contacts don't count) two way contact on 2 Meters between the U.S. and Europe. (Other "trans-Atlantic " contacts don't count.) The exact details can be found on-line for those who wish further info. It's an interesting (and obviously formidable) challenge!
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  3. M0AGP

    M0AGP Ham Member QRZ Page

    Thanks for that - I guess people will have pointed kilowatt powered EME arrays at each other’s beam heading and used super slow digital modes that can connect below the noise floor etc. Inspiring! Will start web-searching.
  4. WA9SVD

    WA9SVD Ham Member QRZ Page

    We all DREAM(!) of a SSB contact to obtain the coveted prize, but some digital mode (perhaps FT8) will be more likely:(, with full power and VERY good antennas. But we (amateurs) still continue to try, if our equipment is "up" to it. I'm sure SOMEDAY the conditions will be "just right."
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  5. K3RW

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    QRSS looks promising
  6. M0AGP

    M0AGP Ham Member QRZ Page

    Interesting! Are people applying it to transatlantic 2m?
  7. WA9SVD

    WA9SVD Ham Member QRZ Page

    "Transatlantic" is a broad generalization.. The prize is for the continental U.S. to Europe. 2 Meter contacts have been made from the U.S. to the Canary Islands, but that does not qualify for the Brendan. (Or, as they say, "close, but no cigar." :() I'm sure the "big guns" are working on it.
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  8. KN6CSB

    KN6CSB Ham Member QRZ Page

    oh great, another thing most of us on Pacific coast have no chance at to work... :(:p

    I am happy to get regular FT8 contacts to Europe on HF from 6 land... can't imagine ever working Europe on vhf...
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  9. M0AGP

    M0AGP Ham Member QRZ Page

    Well maybe Joe Taylor will invent JT478932 that will allow us to go 90 dB below the noise floor, and we will have 24 hour global communications on VHF at a speed of just above zero? I guess you would have to start your 2m (non-EME) DXCC efforts at a pretty young age though...
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  10. VO1NO

    VO1NO Ham Member QRZ Page

    A correction to some of the posts above. The Brendan Awards do not just apply to the continental USA. To quote the IRTS website "The Brendan Trophies and Brendan Shields will be presented to each of the operators of the two amateur radio stations which first establish two-way communication in the relevant category between the continents of Europe and America (North or South) within the Two Metre Amateur Band".

    I have participated in 4 serious attempts to get across the Atlantic on the 2 meter band. Two were made from Nova Scotia, and two from Newfoundland. In our most recent attempt (2014 from Newfoundland) our signal was heard in England, but it was subsequently determined that it had been reflected off the ISS, and therefore was not a terrestrial propagation mode. We were using ~ 850 watts FSK441 into a 42 element rope yagi with 23 dBd gain if memory serves.
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