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Best, no, easiest way to drive in a ground rod?

Discussion in 'Antennas, Feedlines, Towers & Rotors' started by N4FFL, Dec 28, 2018.

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  1. NL7W

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    I own one of these. They work.

    They're not a slick or as fast as a designed hammer-drill, but they don't cost as much either.

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  2. N4FFL

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    Or send my kid out to do it while I sit in the lawn chair with a beer. LOL!
     
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  3. N4FFL

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    I have a feeling I'm going to try it with my rotary hammer drill and end up going out and buying a T post driver and do it that way. LOL
     
  4. WD0BCT

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    Makes perfect sense...that is the part of the country Mr Ufer designed it for. And it shortly became recognized by the NEC.
     
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  5. K9STH

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    6O:

    Your method, unfortunately, does NOT provide an adequate ground! It will take years, maybe even decades, before the soil finally comes into good contact with the ground rod. Ground rods are to be driven into UNDISTURBED soil and "washing" a ground rod definitely disturbs the soil.

    Glen, K9STH
     
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  6. KC8VWM

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    Now you're talking. :)
     
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  7. KP4SX

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    On the other side of the coin - back in the olden dayes when I was a cable installer we had to drive our own rod. We used little 5ft -1/2" rods. The soil in the area was coastal sandy and they hammered in with little effort. At one location I gave the rod a couple of whacks and it disappeared out of sight!
     
  8. WD0BCT

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    I think this is a function of the area you are in....in a desert I would agree. In an area with adequate precipitation I would disagree. I would think that "disturbed soil" would apply to an excavated and backfilled area. That is a disturbment that could seriously changes the make up of the soil. Water in the soil is a natural occurrence. If you think that the soil does not come in good contact with a rod that was installed with a couple of canteens of water....try pulling it out a few months later. In a sandy desert environ you might pull out a ground rod easily.....with or without the use of water while installing.
    In my back yard I felt I had established good contact rather quickly.
     
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  9. AJ6O

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    I worked on a new construction condo site called, "Stone Gate". They called that place right because the ground there was nothing but stones, and rocks a couple inches under the soil.
     
  10. WA7PRC

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    When I set out to drive four 5/8" x 10' rods for my tower project, one for my shack ground, and another under a concrete slab to connect to my electrical service entrance ground, I rented an electric 60# demolition hammer w/ ground rod adapter.

    MOST of the rods went right in, into my "glacial till" (lots of big rocks) soil. A couple went in slow. One went in about 5' and STOPPED. I tried using my bumper jack to pull it out but, that wasn't happening. So, I kept pushing on it w/ the demo hammer. After about 5 minutes, it went in. That was in 2012. If I had used anything less than a yuuge demo hammer, I might still be struggling. In comparison, everything else (including hammer drills) is tiny.
     
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