Be aware when purchasing Amphenol connectors and adapters

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  1. WB2WIK

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    Note: I've seen "counterfeits" even in marked Amphenol bags.

    Likely from China. They do an amazing job of copying logos, printing, everything. The only way I could tell one batch of connectors were counterfeit is by taking them to my jeweler and having him do an acid test on the silver plating (which sure "looked" like silver plating!), to determine there wasn't any silver content. The plating was something else, but the appearance was very good.
     
  2. K1FQA

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    AMP and Amphenol have nothing to do with each other. Two completely different companies. As far as I know, we make connectors with multiple types of insulators for different applications. Always scrutinize the part number of whatever you order and check the datasheet to make sure you're getting exactly what you're wanting.

    Source: I work for TE Connectivity.
     
  3. W6RAD

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    I couldn't help putting my two cents in, and I am not going to get on my soap box, But, I don't understand why companys wont work with the public, I to would want to see those connectors and maybe send the guy a couple of pl-259's just for the heck of it, I know you can't do that for everyone but maybe they are Amphenol maybe not It's worth looking into if I were Amphenol. I like their product, things do happen in the production line.
     
  4. W9GB

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    I have an Amphenol T connector (BNC) from 1980s (Ethernet, 10-Base-2 era, Thin-Net) still sealed in transparent Amphenol branded bag.
    The middle BNC on it lacks the machining for the twist-lock.
    They offered to replace, I kept to use in demonstrations that vigilance is required for good QA (never ending process).

     
    Last edited: Jun 18, 2013
  5. W4POS

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    Amphenol, a company owned by Berkshire Hathaway (owned by Warren Buffet)
     
  6. WB2GOS

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    Darrell,

    Sorry it has taken so long to respond but I was not a member of this forum. I was just notified of your problem. I looked up your address on the ARRL website and we will ship you replacement connectors as soon as possible. This is our CAGE code, but I am not sure if these are copies, or when they were manufactured, but no matter, we will correct it for you. Our part number for this item is 82-100 http://www.amphenolrf.com/record.asp?N=0&sid=520431003132BCFF&R=082-100 .


    We have been in business for over 75 years and even though we make many thousands of connectors each year, we strive for the highest quality possible. Sometimes, things like this happen but we continue to aim to provide the best connectors possible.

    David Weinstein WB2GOS
    Principal RF engineer
    Amphenol RF
    www.amphenolrf.com
     
  7. AG6UP

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    <style type="text/css">P { margin-bottom: 0.08in; }</style> It would seem that Aerospace is not the only industry getting hit with counterfeit parts. I have been to several swap meets and found items that I needed or wanted, in the way of components, only to notice that they were not genuine parts. The markings were wrong, the wrong type of knurling was on the thumb nuts, etc. At swap meets, it's buyer beware. Every industry, from Levi Jeans to high end aerospace is getting hit with fraud parts. I think one of the most blatant examples I've seem was a thrust reverser bucket for a JT-8D, used on the MD-80 series jets, that had a bogus serial number and the Pratt and Whitney Eagle facing the wrong direction. Something like this would never have made it out of their facility. Further testing showed that the part was not even the correct material or temper. It was an accident waiting to happen on landing.

    While HAM Radio is not as big a target as aerospace, there are still a lot of bogus parts out there as they are cheap to make and there is no real accountability or traceability requirements. Fortunately for us, all we are likely to experience is excessive signal loss or a failure, at high power, in our feed line. Of course, this can be a bit rough on the final amplifier or tank circuit in a linear.
     
  8. KU2S

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    "public domain?"
     
  9. AF4E

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    Hi David,

    Good to hear from someone from Amphenol RF Division in the US. Thank you the replacements. As soon as they arrive if you would like for me to I will send the ones I have back to you for quality purposes or just for verification that these are truly Amphenol connectors. Some time back I had downloaded the customer drawing from the Amphenol website for verification and it seems these connectors were made prior to December 26, 2011. According to revision code V the number imprint on the barrell the "74868" was replaced by "Amphenol" on this date. The connectors I have has got the number on the barrell.

    I know there has been a lot of talk on this forum about the connectors being counterfit but I don't think they are. I use very legit companies for suppliers.

    I started the discussion only after I had called Amphenol on the phone and got a very quick "NO we will not replace them" and then I tried to contact someone by E-mail through the website and never got any response. I like Amphenol products and will continue to use them. I just thought it strange that a company as large as and with the reputation of Amphenol being as hard to deal with as they were, especially defective products that are "potentially" Amphenol products.

    Thank you for the response David and I am very happy that Amphenol is finally moving in the right direction with this. I am glad that a least someone still believes in good customer service regardless if the customer is a direct or an indirect customer.

    Darrell, AF4E
     
  10. WB2GOS

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    Darrell,

    Sorry it has taken so long to respond but I was not a member of this forum. I was just notified of your problem. I looked up your address on the ARRL website and we will ship you replacement connectors as soon as possible. I am not sure if these are ours or copies, or when they were manufactured, but no matter, we will correct it for you.

    We have been in business for over 75 years and even though we make many thousands of connectors each year, we strive for the highest quality possible. Sometimes, things like this happen but we continue to aim to provide the best connectors possible.



    David Weinstein WB2GOS

    Principal RF engineer

    Amphenol RF

    www.amphenolrf.com
     
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