Baofeng and Enforcement Advisory - Where Are We Now?

Discussion in 'Ham Radio Discussions' started by N1FM, Dec 6, 2019.

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  1. N1FM

    N1FM Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    "Anyone importing, advertising or selling such noncompliant devices should stop immediately, and anyone owning such devices should not use them. Violators may be subject to substantial monetary penalties."

    FCC ENF ADV SEPT 24, 2018
    https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-18-980A1.pdf


    "ARRL and FCC officials also discussed the problem of uncertified radios being imported into the US and the possible impact for radio amateurs of an FCC Enforcement Advisory issued in September 2018. ARRL officials came away with a better understanding of the FCC’s actions in this matter and of the dangers that uncertified radios capable of transmitting on unapproved spectrum pose to the integrity of commercial and public safety communication. The Amateur Service was not a focus of concern, and ARRL is considering future action."

    ARRL President Rick Roderick, K5UR, Heads ARRL Group on FCC Visits 11/26/2019
    http://www.arrl.org/news/president-rick-roderick-k5ur-heads-arrl-group-on-fcc-visits

    Opinions Wanted:

    What is FCC doing, and what is ARRL planning?


    AMAZON'S CHOICE:

    BaoFeng BF-F8HP (UV-5R 3rd Gen) 8-Watt Dual Band Two-Way Radio
    (136-174MHz VHF & 400-520MHz UHF) Includes Full Kit with Large Battery

    https://www.amazon.com/s?k=baofeng&i=instant-video&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

    User Q+A

    "Which frequencies will I be required to become licensed for? How do I know which repeaters I might use and their associated membership fees? Thank you."

    Answer:

    "You cannot use this radio in any unlicensed frequency. It is not type accepted for any radio service and is therefore illegal to sell, advertise, market, or ship to anywhere in the US. It is probably legal to use in a Ham band if you have a ham license. Ham licenses come with some great benefits, such as being able to use un-aproved radios, it is well worth the effort to get one.

    BTW, I have two of these radios. They work about as well as a UV-5R, of which they are a derivative They just over-powered a 5 watt radio to make it spit out 8 watts. It gets you VERY little extra distance and the transmission is really really dirty. It blows all over the 2 meter bands. If you want to see what the FCC does to out of service marketing Google "FCC DA-18-980A1".

    This radio has no legal use in the US except on the ham bands by hams. It is very illegal to use for MURS and FRS, and not even OK for FMRS. It transmits so dirty it is pretty obvious to anyone with a good HR rig with a display or an FCC truck that you are using a BF-F8HP. It's got a rather unique signal signature.

    If you want a Baofeng get one of these. They are all certified part 90 which makes them legal to sell and ship, and no questions about using them for Ham use. And get a ham license, it really opens up your options."

    Baofeng UV-5R ZP5BF-5R
    Baofeng UV-3R ZP5BF-3R
    Baofeng UV-5RA ZP5BF-5RA
    Baofeng UV-82 ZP5BF-82
    Baofeng UV-82L ZP5BF-UV82L
    Baofeng BF-888s ZP5BF-888S
    Baofeng UV-B5 ZP5UV-B5
    Baofeng BF-F9v2 ZP5BF-F9V2
     
  2. KY5U

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    You present a lot of text in quotation marks in the answers above. Who is the speaker? I would assume it is not you as there’d be no reason to quote yourself. Are you an expert in this isusue? Thanks.
     
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  3. N1FM

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    The topic is: Baofeng and Enforcement Advisory - Where Are We Now?

    Opinions Wanted

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    Speakers? Isusue? See the links:

    https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-18-980A1.pdf
    https://www.amazon.com/s?k=baofeng&i=instant-video&ref=nb_sb_noss_1
    http://www.arrl.org/news/president-rick-roderick-k5ur-heads-arrl-group-on-fcc-visits
    https://tinyurl.com/udme7dj
     
  4. KY5U

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  5. AG6QR

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    Yes, that was over a year ago. I'm sure that we will hear about it here on QRZ just as soon as the noncompliant radios become unavailable via the usual online retailers, or as soon as the FCC performs any hint of enforcement action against an individual for using such radios.

    I haven't heard anything, have you?
     
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  6. N1FM

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    The ONLY thing I've seen (after last year's initial discussions and uproar) is the blurb in the ARRL article, citing discussions with Rosemary Harold, on November, 26, 2019, and this statement.

    "The Amateur Service was not a focus of concern, and ARRL is considering future action."

    http://www.arrl.org/news/president-rick-roderick-k5ur-heads-arrl-group-on-fcc-visits
     
  7. KK6NOH

    KK6NOH Ham Member QRZ Page

    I'll stop using the baofeng when everyone else stops using homebrew rigs.
     
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  8. KP4SX

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    Hunh?
     
  9. N3AB

    N3AB Platinum Subscriber Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    My opinion....nothing changed. And nothing will, thanks to the FCC.

    ARRL? Impotent.
     
  10. KK6NOH

    KK6NOH Ham Member QRZ Page

    I'll say it in reverse.

    If a homebrew radio is legal and perfectly accepted for use on the ham bands, then the baofeng surely is as well.
     
    KA4DPO, K4PIH, N1DQQ and 2 others like this.

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