ARRL Proposes New Entry Level License Class w/ HF

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  1. N3PNB

    N3PNB Ham Member QRZ Page

    This is the first time I'm posting something on this issue.  Even though I'm fairly sure that there isn't anything I'm going to say that hasn't been said already, I'm going to post my opinion anyway.
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    The Good: [​IMG]

    For the most part, I like the new ARRL proposal.  I have heard novice opperators of some years ago talk about how being given some opportunities to talk voice on 10 meters not only energized a dead band, but it also motivated some people's interest in sticking with amateur radio.  An entry level licence (without code) with a taste of HF could be a very good thing.  

    The Good?:

    Ahhhh, what to do with all those no code techs and tech plus people?  Even the techs and tech pluses disagree.  A friend of mine (at least initially) thought no codes should be bumped to the new entry level class but the tech plus people should be bumped up to General.  (Uhh sorry.  If code is being eliminated, as in not important, then both techs and tech pluses can be treated the same way.  ah-ha!  Techs, at least from ten years ago, had to take the novice portion of the license requirements and know something about how to opperate on HF, in theory.)  Yeah, what do ya do, eh?

    Not so good? [​IMG]

    I'm willing to give techs and tech pluses the benefit of assuming that they will become a valuable addition to the HF community.  I think flooding the HF bands with some new opperators can be a good thing.  (I don't think it will be a "flood" either.)  

    BUT:  Hey! What HF bands can I transmit on? [​IMG]

    Someone at the ARRL must be out of his/her mind in thinking that bumping current tech/ tech pluses up to General without taking at least the written test is a good idea.  That question up there, 'What band can I opperate on?' is going to be a common one.  Put simply, without some study, people simply don't know.  And there's a lot more that could be useful.  (Pssst!  The band plans are included in the ARRL study book for General.)

    I can just see this one comming too:  'Hey!  Why can't people hear me on 20 meters??? [​IMG]  My *lower* side band is working just fine!'  

    Yeah.  I can see that one coming a mile away.  Where do you learn that there are such things as upper and lower side band?  Why, the General theory for that exam is where you find that necessary bit of information!!!

    People Should learn what to do on HF:

    In case I haven't been 100% clear, before opperating on HF, it is important to know the theory behind how to opperate.  It's that simple.  

    Some techs and tech pluses may already know a great deal about working HF.  (I'm sure of this.)  Okay, then it probably would not be very difficult to study for the written portion of the test to make sure that they and everyone else is on the same page.  

    What to do?  What to do! [​IMG]

    Everyone should take the General theory exam.  It is in everyone's best interest that everyone working HF have a decent idea of what they are supposed to do before being granted a license.

    73,

    Chris
    N3PNB
     
  2. W5MRB

    W5MRB Ham Member QRZ Page

    CW is still a good thing and I would like to see it stay somewhere in the amatuer world, But if this is somthing to get the bands used more then Im all for it. We all know what happens to the bands that don't get used.. They get taken away by the FCC to be used in some new gadget like a cordless phone or something. But lets not forget the CW that is a part of the knowledge we have worked so hard to retain. For some of the others that would like to see no regulations at all, Please stay on your CB,and FRS's and leave us alone. [​IMG]
     
  3. W0UZR

    W0UZR Ham Member QRZ Page

    First of all, shhh (the fcc isn't going to want the lower bands.) Don't want to say that too loud in case I'm wrong. Because I figure that if the FCC wanted those bands, they would have taken them by now..And MORE news..The FCC has these frequencies now anyway.

    How do I know that? Because whose feet do we have to bow down to in order to get our ticket?

    And number two,,The frequencies are being used enough now as it is. I'd assoon not have a big influx on people bombard in. There isn't room to talk on 40 and 20 anymore now as it is.

    And number three,,The code STAYS!!! It had better. Otherwise get ready for 'BREAKER" "BREAKER" "19" ! ! !
     
  4. K4UUG

    K4UUG Ham Member QRZ Page

    The FCC has approved ARRL's recomendations that all techs and tech plus will be upgraded to General Class without any futher testing the code requirement has been dropped.You need 5 wpm to up grade to amature extra and pass the written element.Novices will become the New Communicator class.The FCC Licence will now have only three classe's Extra being the only class requiring morse code testing of 5 wpm.You old codgers will learn to change or be run over! Life is just like that![​IMG]
     
  5. K1MVP

    K1MVP Ham Member QRZ Page

    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (N1OBN @ May 17 2004,17:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The FCC has approved ARRL's recomendations that all techs and tech plus will be upgraded to General Class without any futher testing the code requirement has been dropped.You need 5 wpm to up grade to amature extra and pass the written element.Novices will become the New Communicator class.The FCC Licence will now have only three classe's Extra being the only class requiring morse code testing of 5 wpm.You old codgers will learn to change or be run over! Life is just like that![​IMG][/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
    Rick,
     The FCC is now CONSIDERING the petitions, and looking
     at comments by individuals submitted on their EFCS  
     website,--no decisions have been made as of yet,
     unless you happen to have "inside info" the rest of
     us do not have.
     Its interesting that with all your input on this subject
     on QRZ.com, I did not find any comments to the FCC  
     on the EFCS website from you.
                     73, K1MVP              [​IMG]
     
  6. W4AIN

    W4AIN Ham Member QRZ Page

    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kb0uzr @ Mar. 03 2004,20:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Someone else said it,,and now I will.

    The ARRL sold us out. Look at that post you quoted.  Those the kind of people they want in amature radio? People that have NO pride?

    ... The ARRL isn't interested in the quality of ham radio,,Just themselves.  "Line their pockets!"[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

    OK fellas, I've held out long enough on this one.

    I have heard this form of comment too often to not make a comment of my own. They (ie. FCC, ARRL, etc.) aren't interested in the quality of ham radio??? C'mon guys, that is a stupid thing to say. In reality, it is some of the hams themselves that don't care about the quality of our hobby! Instead of jumping on the ol' woe is me train why not learn an old trick called 'elmering'.....If our hobby has declined in quality it is not the fault of the FCC, ARRL, or any other organization. It is the majority of hams that have quit carrying the torch because the road took a curve they weren't expecting.....Changes are inevitable, so do we jump up and down and cry for our mommies to change things back, or do we accept the change and the challenges that go along with such changes. Before any OT's jump in about the way things used to be, I suggest that you first go online and take some of the practice exams for your current class of license. I would be interested in knowing what your score is on the first test you take for each class of license. I fully support the recommendations made by ARRL, and prefer the changes proposed by the NCVEC. Rather than telling a prospective ham where to obtain a Q&A quide, how about inviting him\her over to your shack and 'teach' them about proper ham radio operations and operator courtesy by example. Rather than the FCC forcing hams to learn CW, why don't we TEACH CW.....But NO, we don't have the desire or time to do that...It's easier to give\sell them a code tape and yell at them for not learning fast enough....

    Dumb Down Ham Radio?[​IMG]  You have already dumbed it down quite enough by being hard-hearted, mean-spirited, and loathesome.

    C'mon folks.....Let's welcome them in instead of weedin' them out!

    Phil - W4AIN
     
  7. K6IRP

    K6IRP Ham Member QRZ Page

    THE ARRL SOLD US ALL OUT--- THAT'S A FACT-----
     
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