ARRL Proposal to Give Technicians More Operating Privileges

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by NW7US, Apr 10, 2019.

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  1. N2SUB

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    That is interesting. I had not heard that. Is there a link to the source. If this is the case, it would be extremely discouraging.
  2. N2SUB

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    Wow. Really? Maybe, just maybe, a lot of Extra class operators choose not to get involved in those conversations. You know, the silent majority. Your disparaging remarks are tantamount to the conversations you allude to.

    You cast a very wide net. If, in your opinion, extra class operators aren't doing a good job at "setting a good example", why not BECOME AN EXTRA CLASS OPERATOR and show us how it's done. Talk is cheap. Insults are cheaper.
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  3. KE5ES

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    I just read your post but disagree. While driving, smoking, texting, and drinking my Jack and Coke I tend to agree with the video maker that it is totally safe to drive and video record. ALL OF THAT IS A JOKE! Why is this even in the QRZ News spot? IT ISN'T NEWS!!!! It is someone that posted in the forum and QRZ's 'robot' put it as news. I think I will post a thread about naked amateur radio use. Do you really know if the other person is clothed while you talk to them? Any other STUPID posts that can be placed in the News spot on the homepage???!!!!!
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  4. WB9YZU

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    Rodger, congratulations on being a Tech. There is zero wrong with being a Tech. One of my Elmers was a Tech until way later in his life when his Sons encouraged him to upgrade.
    He was one of most knowledgeable people I know.

    That said, his Tech license was the General written element and 5wpm code vs 13wpm for the General.

    The Novice License used to be the beginner license, had a limit of 2 years, and had no voice privileges at less than 100W, so the Tech license is quite a few steps up; you got 28 mhz and above open to you with a written test that about equivalent to the old Novice test. Man, if I was you, I'd be all over your new privileges instead of pineing for HF.

    Hoping not to sound elitist, but...
    Since one of our pillars is to act as good will ambassadors we don't really want newbies on the HF bands. I've heard some of the new Techs on the repeaters. Some like you are highly motivated to learn the ropes and to pay their dues. But some are, to be frank, complete imbicils, and my hope is that the General test is the "you need to be this high to ride" test.

    IMHO the Tech is one of the most under-used licenses tickets out there.
    You would think that the VHF bands would be covered in Techs, but I hardly ever talk to a Tech on 2 or 6M SSB Phone, CW, or a Digital mode, now why is that? Almost every HF rig made now is HF+6. So why so few Techs on VHF? Maybe they read that QRZ band indicator and assume there is no activity because it's "closed".

    FWIW, I went from Novice, to General, to Extra. I stayed a General for decades and only upgraded because when I did run HF, I didn't want to worry about where the General/Etra divider was on the band plan :)
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  5. KK5JY

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    And then presented it as "news?"
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  6. NN4RH

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    Seems like there are two options to get there:

    (a) Pass the test, upgrade to General.

    (b) Wait long enough, and see if the ARRL has convinced the FCC to give it to you.

    The third option, whine about it and blame your problem on extras and generals, doesn't get you there.

    10 meters is actually a very interesting band, even during sunspot minimum like we are in now. On the other hand, if you all you want to do is yak on the radio at will, then 10 meters is not for you, even during a sunspot maximum.
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  7. K7ULS

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  8. K7RLN

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    I have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, I would love to see more Technician Class be more involved, and see how much fun HF is. I remember shortly after getting my license, I purchased a used 10 meter rig; put up a 10 meter antenna, and called CQ on the portion of the band that I was allowed to transmit on - and heard nothing. I later found out why because of Solar minimum. I didn't let it discourage me; I decided at that point I was going to upgrade, because HF was my goal.

    I'm not sure I would have upgraded to General if I had HF privileges as a Technician. Granted, I enjoy the hobby a lot more as a General. And, someday I'll go and get Extra. But for now, General suits me just fine.
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  9. NN4RH

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    I am sure there are a number of Techs who do exactly that, and that is OK. There are a lot of interesting and challenging things one can do with a Technician license on VHF/UHF/Microwave etc.

    We seem to believe that being on HF is the "holy grail", but is it really?

    I wonder sometimes if things are back-asswards. Maybe General should be the "entry class" and you should have to "upgrade" to get access to VHF/UHF/Micorwave.
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  10. K3FHP

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    The concept is not without merit, it's the plan that is faulty.
    First, call it what it is, a Novice or if you will, FOUNDTION license.
    Next, give a taste, not the whole nine yards of privilege. Too many khz, too much power.
    They propose giving the Data frequencies General and Advanced have on 80-40-15_10,
    Way too much, give 25-30 khz at 25watts maximum(100%duty cycle). Plenty for data without spreading across the band. Same for SSB, lower power, smaller segments.
    THIS would give a taste and an incentive to upgrade as well as teach just how much you can accomplish without towers, kw amplifiers and the like. And rename the class to Beginner, Novice or Foundation.

    Just one more thing, there should be an EXPERIENCE requirement, one year with beginning license to test for General, Two years as General to test for Extra. This should make the ARRL and their advertisers happy as it will sell the beginners gear they will upgrade from or add to .
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