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ARRL Proposal to Give Technicians More Operating Privileges

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by NW7US, Apr 10, 2019.

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  1. K4KYV

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  2. NN4RH

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  3. NN4RH

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    meant to say Maybe General HF access should be the "entry class" and you should have to "upgrade" to get access to VHF/UHF/Microwave.
     
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  4. K4AGO

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    This thread was/is a complete waste of time and effort.

    Some people cannot stop kicking and beating a dead horse.

    John
    K4AGO
     
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  5. K4AGO

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    If this is true, maybe the OP should apply his efforts to helping get the magazine out and in the hands of subscribers who paid for it.

    I would be a CQ subscriber again if they would publish the magazine on time. Enough said.

    John
    K4AGO
     
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  6. K0UO

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    They have a way now, just get a General!!!! In fact the old Tec test use to be the same as the General but at 5 wpm.
    Giving something away is no way to help the hobby. We should all help get the current tec's upgraded by being good Elmer's
     
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  7. K1RI

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    Enough is enough. Don't want to earn the privileges then 11 M is the best path. How many Extra Class ops demonstrate they are nothing more than paper hams? I had to explain to one what CQ DX meant. Bring back the CW testing. All hams who passed CW to get a license have had their hard earned license diminished. Enough of this give away society and ham radio just following like a puppy dog.
     
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  8. KD2MIC

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    Actually, giving it away for free, with limits, does help the hobby. It's one of the oldest marketing ploys out there and it's meant to do one thing; build a habit. I bet the majority of you have taken part in this marketing miracle. Ever watch HBO or Showtime during the "free weekends"? You were limited to what you could watch but it did get people to subscribe to the paid networks, otherwise they wouldn't run them twice a year for decades. Ever look through your newspaper and find the local casinos "free play"? Marketing!!! Come in and get $5 worth of play on a slot machine, stay for some food (on your own dime), and then play some more slots because you had so much fun on the one-armed bandit (on your own dime). With the proper "taste" you absolutely are building potential customers.

    And why does everything have to revert to "the way we always did it"? Still drinking milk out of glass bottles? Your druggist still mixing up the prescriptions by hand? Things change. Try them and see how it goes. If this proposal goes through and flops what harm did it do? Your talking about something that might save a hobby, a dying hobby. Do you want the same hundred people to contact all the time or do you want to hear an influx of new blood? New users of an antiquated communication system that could turn it on it's head.

    Folks, just because it ain't broke doesn't mean you can't improve it (see digital modes).
     
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  9. KE8NFK

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    I'm not a ham (yet) but I've never understood the logic of learning all about the HF frequencies and operating privileges to get your Tech license, and once you GET it, all you can operate on is 10 meters (unless you ALSO learn code) If it's a safety concern, I've seen the most experienced people (and not just hams) who "know what they're doing" so they "don't have to follow safety rules" kill themselves....it's the ham who "knows what I'm doing, I don't need to unplug the 1000 watt linear before working on it" that scare me the MOST!!!
     
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  10. W0IW

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    Wow what’s next ARRL. ....??!?!?!??
     
  11. KE8NFK

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    From what I've heard on the bands locally, there hasn't been a new ham in a good 20-30 YEARS!!! It seems like EVERYONE is an Extra, got their license right after they got out of High School or the military 20+ years ago, at least 50 years old, etc...
     
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  12. WG7X

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    Roger, My response was not directed at you. That is why we use the at "@" sign in front of a registered members call. It is supposed to alert them to the fact that someones respnded to their message without necessarily quoting the post. like I did above.

    Now to your point: Yes, this poor operating is across the board and not limited to any one license class.

    Unfortunately.

    That was my only point in regards to K9TRD's post.
     
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  13. K4KYV

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    Because the others got locked due to people hijacking the thread to post silly or hateful, off-topic, fatuous remarks.

    Let's keep this one civil and on-topic.
     
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  14. KC7JNJ

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    Had my sister over and had one of those frozen pizzas. After dinner I asked how did she like the pizza. She said that it was terrible pizza but it tasted pretty good. I was like what? she said that did not qualify as pizza. So for pizza that was really bad! But It would be pretty good if it was called by another name.

    It seems like many want to redefine what ham radio is to save the hobby. But I say if it is going to die let it die with its boots on. Really the General class test is pretty easy, not like they used to be. Not everyone is cut out to be a ham. Thats ok, heck I will never dunk a basketball.
     
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  15. K0UO

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    My point is, just giving it away isn't going to help the hobby, but being good Elmer's and getting people on the air certainly will.
    Whether you give away more frequencies or not, they're still going to need help and encouragement. And they need to experience good operating procedures. Or we will all be right back where we're at right now. How many of you have ever helped a technician get on HF????? And I don't mean help just them pick out a rig at a hamfest. I mean help them get their power supply, their transceiver, antenna tuner, their coax, and antenna in the air and make some contacts with them.
    They won't catch the fever until that happens.
    The only real ham is one that's on the air and making contacts.
    73s
     
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