ARRL Hudson Division webinar recording

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by W0PV, Feb 13, 2018.

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  1. KA0HCP

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    Rita was not summarily dismissed. He spent at least five minute talking with her. She made only general comments/questions that did not deal in specifics. First that N2YBB follow the laywers' advice on HOA/CC issues, and second that he "listen" to the advice of DX'ers and Contesters.

    N2YBB explained:
    1. He was familiar with the lawyers' recommendations but they were not appropriate and that the lawyer was by his own admission a Land Use lawyer and not experienced in HOA/CC zoning fields.

    2. That acting solely in the interest of DXers and Contesters would be elitist.

    Rita pushed these points in the same general wording at least three or four times without amplifying, explaining or giving key points. Her approach was poorly worded and imprecise.
  2. KC8VWM

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    Which is exactly what Lisenco was talking about when he indicated things need to be more collegial among the leadership members in HQ.

    Less threats of lawsuits over mere disagreements and members writing nastygram emails to HQ likening Lisenco to Adolf Hitler and that sort of nonsense etc. etc...
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  3. W0PV

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    N2YBB was on the EC that voted for firing W3JY from his NTS position which ignited the big lawsuit. It's disingenuous justifying such heavy-handed action and then expressing surprise and exasperation for being taken to court and causing such disruption. It takes two to tango. The ARRL EC made a very bad judgement.

    That matter, the ARRL HQ / Regional NTS / FEMA contact "triangle conflict" when it met resistance, should have been made public to League membership for help in resolution, with input back through the full BoD, before any staff changes at that level.
  4. K0IDT

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    If you're in the Hudson Division and you're happy with this kind of representation there's no point in this discussion. How about it Hudson Div., are you guys and gals happy and approve of this kind of behavior?
  5. W0PV

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    N2YBB danced around Rita's questions. Her prep could have been better and she probably feels more badly about that then any rudeness. Perhaps caught off-guard by his defensive tone off the bat she was overly polite.

    1. It's absurdly ignorant at best, evasive spin at worst, to say K1VR is simply a "Land Use" lawyer without HOA experience. See his book "Antenna Zoning", link below. Search HOA. Zoning.pdf

    Equally outrageous to then imply that the ARRL General Counsel, a lobbyist more then a litigator, is more of an expert in HOA/CC when his official bio only states "land use".

    And also to disregard other legal opinions from other ham attorneys, such as from N3JT, or numerous non-ham lawyers who may indeed be HOA specialists that have been consulted by hams to give opinions. This attitude is insulting to the common-sense of members.

    2. Forget the "elitist" gaslighting, pivot and spin. He knew the question was that wording in such legislation could work AGAINST the interest of DXers and Contesters; WOULD THAT BE GOOD FOR AMATEUR RADIO? It is a primary contention with the current ARPA bill language.

    It's NOT a good idea, IMO. How could any reasonable ham think otherwise.
    Last edited: Feb 16, 2018
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  6. KG2C

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    Guys, her name is Ria (N2RJ), not Rita.
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  7. W0PV

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    WHELP! I knew thaaaat, just didn't wanna confuse the other guys more :rolleyes:
    ... and who is NY2BB ? :confused:
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2018
  8. K0IDT

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    Sorry, audio wasn't that good but she was still treated very poorly in my opinion.
  9. K0IDT

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    He lives in my keyboard and is lysdexic........I'll go stand in the corner if it will help :oops:
  10. KA0HCP

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    Methinks the gas and hot air is on your side of the keyboard. Whew. Calm down. And to think you are just ONE rabid member that Mike has to deal with. You prove his point about the abuse directors are getting.
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