ARRL Entry Level License Committee Report July 2017

Discussion in 'Ham Radio Discussions' started by NN4RH, Aug 2, 2017.

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  1. W2AI

    W2AI QRZ Lifetime Member #240 Platinum Subscriber Life Member QRZ Page

    I was thinking along those lines as well with double shielded Teflon coax.

    What will these CBers running 5 kw plus do when the rock bottom of the solar cycle arrives and 11 meters becomes a vast wasteland?? Perhaps they'll obtain a ham ticket and run 5 kw on 20 meters with a directional antenna on top of a 100' tower.
     
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  2. K1VSK

    K1VSK Ham Member QRZ Page

    I know a guy who's hobby is crocheting. And another who's hobby was puppetry before he passed away. Neither ever spent such effort trying to contrive reasons for 'growing' their hobby or spending time trying to attract kids into an archaic avocation. Or worse, trying to get the government to make it more appealing to children which in all cases is both futile and a waste of time for the government.

    They were quite content enjoying it for what it is and knew life actually exists outside their obscure hobbies.
     
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  3. K7JEM

    K7JEM Ham Member QRZ Page

    Yes, but their hobbies are not licensed by the federal government. Since ours is, we have an interest in making sure we have new licensees to replace those who die. If we didn't recruit new people, our frequencies would be reassigned to other services.
     
  4. KK5JY

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    To be fair, all of the controversial legislative efforts related to amateur radio in recent years are being created by a small number of people within one organization. And that organization is increasingly opaque, even to its members. What we are seeing in the forums are people who are buying into what their organization advocates, without thinking about what is being proposed or the consequences thereof. In many cases, some of the loudest proponents of certain measures haven't even read the text that they are advocating.
     
  5. AB8MA

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    We?
     
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  6. W2AI

    W2AI QRZ Lifetime Member #240 Platinum Subscriber Life Member QRZ Page

    Those U.S. amateurs licensed prior to 1993 passed a code exam. Any ham originally licensed after 2007 did not. But it was often said during the 60s and 70s that [knowledge of] Morse code kept many away from amateur radio and CQ magazine was pushing for a 'no-code' license in the late 1960s. AT that time, the Cowan publishing group that owned CQ Magazine also published "S-9 Magazine" oriented towards CBers.
     
  7. KK5JY

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    So hamming is dying, yet again? And ARRL needs to save it, again? If you say so... :rolleyes: I was on 40m last night and it was wall-to-wall with CW, FT8, Olivia, and others. If anything, we have too many hams for the allocations that are available.

    The existing licensing structure is easy. That's FCC's word. The federal government's official written position is that getting a General class license and all its associated privileges is "easy." In that context, restructuring not only makes no sense, and it is almost certain to fail quickly and spectacularly when it is (re)raised at the Commission. There is no way to improve on "easy." If people won't pick up a ham license when it is easy, they aren't going to pick it up at all. Restructuring won't change that. Nothing will change that.

    That makes restructuring efforts a waste of time, money, and legislative capital by the League. If they don't quit pushing dead issues on the hill, they will soon have zero credibility and good will with the legislature and with the FCC.
     
  8. W7UUU

    W7UUU Super Moderator Lifetime Member 133 Administrator Volunteer Moderator Platinum Subscriber Life Member QRZ Page

    Oui!
     
  9. WD4IGX

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    I would agree as far as it goes, but an old logbook pre-no-code showing your license class pretty well establishes your code history as well. :D
     
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  10. K7JEM

    K7JEM Ham Member QRZ Page

    You're spouting arguments that I haven't made here. All I am saying is that you can't compare HR to stamp collecting, since stamp collectors (and most hobbies) do their thing without government intervention, licensing, or restrictions. If we do "nothing" to bring in new people, our hobby will go away. If we do things to purposely keep people out, our hobby will go away. This is simply because we rely on the federal government for a "handout" of spectrum and privileges.

    Your anecdotal story about 40M is amusing, but doesn't really mean anything. Of course 40M will be crowded at night, especially when other bands aren't doing so well. But you knew that already.
     

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