Hi all, I've looked at most antenna threads and even a few for HOA hams. Most seem to focus on hiding the antenna which of course is a reasonable thing to do. Currently I have an end-fed wire that works but I'm hoping for something better. I am looking for a different type of recommendation. In my specific case I have a space behind my house where I could if I get crafty place a HexBeam or even a 43 foot vertical. Now most of you will probably say "Move out of the HOA". Well that is a plan but it doesn't help me right away. In the case of the HexBeam I'd have to keep it below the roof line of my house to keep it hidden from the street until either I can plant some trees to hide it or at night I could crank it up some. The concern I have here is that the times when I'd really like to use it, weekend, I'd have to keep it low and based on where I'd have to mount it that would mean the house blocks the east path. South, West, and North would all be fine. Also with a HexBeam I would be looking at 20m to 10m which as the sun goes down 20 begins to die off so about the time I could put the beam up above the roof the band probably won't be the best. I am also considering a 43 foot vertical. For this I would probably end up going down into a small ravine that is probably 10 feet lower than my location for the HexBeam and there I could mount the vertical and lay as many ground plane wires as I'd like. My concern with this approach is I'd have to go "lower" to hide the antenna down in kind of a small ravine and also around some cottonwood trees. As a really radial third alternative I guess I could try to put the HexBeam in the location of the vertical. It would look a lot like parts of the trees but it would be noticeable to some people. If you were in this situation what would you try?