Anatomy of an Internet Scam at QRZ

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by AA7BQ, Aug 18, 2014.

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  1. KB1ENB

    KB1ENB Ham Member QRZ Page

    how could you treat a person wit cancel like that??? meany
     
  2. VA3DGS

    VA3DGS Ham Member QRZ Page

    Proof that a breathalyzer is required on keyboards???
     
  3. WB0MPB

    WB0MPB Subscriber QRZ Page

    With all the talk about scamming I am surprised about 4 big red flags people still fall for:
    1. Pay me with "friends and family".
    2. Send my money via Western Union.
    3. Send the money to my sister / wife / mother etc at a different address.
    Or if you are the seller:
    4. The guy sends you a check for more then your asking price and then they say their associate made a mistake so he says take the check to the bank and cash it and keep a certain amount for your trouble and send the extra (Usually Western Union) back to them or send it with the item you just sold them. The check will bounce in 10 to 20 days and then the bank will ask for their money back. (I have had a lot of fun with this one!!! I have got them to FedEx over night me checks so it cost them money and then finally tell them that they have been had but thanks for spending the money to over night me some checks)

    I think those are the biggest red flags out there and if anyone is asked to do any of these things do one of two things.
    End the dealing with them immediately and find another seller or lead them on and have some fun with them before you tell them you know they are scamming you and then move on. But don't give them any info while leading them on. (I love to play this game with them!!)

    There are other things out there but I think these are the biggest red flags that everyone should know. Unfortunately the ones that get caught up in these and don't realize they are being scammed is the elderly. So help them know these signs.

    The only one that I don't feel sorry for the buyer (unless it is really and elderly person that just doesn't understand) is the "friends and family". Any buyer that does that is just as "in the wrong" as the scammer. It is cheating Paypal when it is done to bypass the 3% fee. If someone looses money doing that I just laugh at them. (Sorry if anyone reading this has done F&F on Paypal.

    These are my opinions on scams.
    John, WB0MPB
     
  4. VA3BLL

    VA3BLL Ham Member QRZ Page

    Are people on the internet really that stupid? They think they can pass off that passport photo???

    VA3BLL
     
  5. N2SUB

    N2SUB XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    There are, of course, two sides to THAT story......but doesn't get me started.
     
  6. VE6ZW

    VE6ZW Ham Member QRZ Page

    Fred,, it was an special report for me,I was looking to buy a radio for me from anywhere,now I will more smart about these situations.For me a great lesson. Thanks
    Cesar Meza. ve6zw-ce7bbl Calgary AB
     
  7. MW6KGY

    MW6KGY Ham Member QRZ Page

    Hey, thats my MUM in that pic on the passport, she sold my FTDX-9000D the mare!!!!! On the cheap too ;).....Fair play OP for bringing that to everybody's attention.....MUM!!!!! You're in trouble when I see you!!
     
  8. AG5ND

    AG5ND Ham Member QRZ Page

    Brilliant, QRZ. Just brilliant. Thanks for being vigilant.
     
  9. W2AI

    W2AI XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    I never buy "used" equipment; only new from a reputable dealer. Don't want to deal with other amateurs or scammers troublesome or inoperable radios. Many hams think by buying "used" --they're getting a bargain. In the vast majority of cases--they're NOT!!
     
  10. K8OCN

    K8OCN Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    When I was building up my equipment I purchased a lot of things via eBay. I know it cost more for the fee's. I have even offered to share the paypal fee when it was a big item (I think its unfair that the sell has to pay it all). I even purchased a forklift of ebay once. The only thing I ever purchased on one of the ham websites was a Ameritron ALS-1200 Amp. I got a fair deal and everything went smooth, but I was nervous and the sell and I spoke a few times on the phone.

    I wish that somehow QRZ and eHam would come up with some kind of feedback system for sellers here. My local gun club has a website that people buy and sell guns on and accessories (we follow all the laws) and there is a forum where people post their experiences with different people. You go search for their name and see what people have said about them. That would be easy with call signs as a reference.

    I do not buy much off the ham radio sites (used, I love the ads for the business and I buy way to much from them) I just do not feel safe.
     

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