Yup....those fancy systems will work....until they don't. The new federal systems....are based on cell towers. Hurricane Michael demonstrated just how reliable those are. I'm all for great technologies!!! But knowing a bit of old school also helps. And some systems are much more infrastructure dependent than others......which is why I like systems that are less infrastructure dependent... There is nothing wrong with ordinary humans wanting to have their own communications. There is no need to disparage them for that. This is one of the things ham radio is useful for --- and if one criticizes every person who comes to amateur radio for their various interests (whatever and how diverse they may be....) well, then should be be surprised if there are fewer people in your club? In the panhandle sure those towers had generators.....only they were underwater. And sure they had refillable diesel tanks...only the truck was mired in mud 3 miles up from them.....and sure they had fiber...only the buldozer that just knocked that precarious tree down....just took out your backup fiber or hyour replacement fiber....for the 6th time. Travel time seemed to be 2 hours per mile in places......you needed a good sized tire patch kit!!!! It is alwasy funny to me when people who don't actually know what went on in XYZ write disparaging comments about it. Or when people who don't atually know the statistics insult people with false statistics....or when people who don't actually understand an advanced system, disparage it. I'm all for advanced systems!!!! More power to you. I'll still keep around a few older ideas, because there just might come a long a time when the advanced stuff......finds a vulnerability no one thought out. There are really bad things out there. I just heard a lecture from an epidemiologist who explained that people who didn't know that......diagnosed Ebola as Malaria....fatal difference for the person making the diagnosis, also!!!