A Proposal For Requireing Vetting to Post In Swap

Discussion in 'Swapmeet Talk' started by N6OIL, Jan 13, 2018.

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  1. N6OIL

    N6OIL Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    Hey how about we change how items can be listed and sold here on the Zed. Your only allowed to sell if your callsign have been vetted and are authorized to list items kinda the same way LOTW works. Yeah I know it's going to leave a lot of people out but this would be a way to stop scammers. Fred what do you think can something like this be done?
     
  2. ND6M

    ND6M Ham Member QRZ Page

    ...and if someone were to get "scammed" after the vetting, who will be held responsible?
     
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  3. N9LCD

    N9LCD Ham Member QRZ Page

    IMO, all of this comes down to one thing: EVERYBODY WANTS SOMEBODY TO LOOK AFTER THEM & BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR MISTAKES!
     
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  4. KC8VWM

    KC8VWM Moderator Staff Member Volunteer Moderator QRZ Page

    It's really up to the seller to decide if they are dealing with a legitimate buyer or not.

    Similarly, it's up to the buyer to decide if they are dealing with a legitimate seller or not.

    There's risks but you have to do your own homework.

    Check them out. Call them on the phone, qualify people in other ways. Check to see if other users have been scammed by the same call sign before.

    Make sure the person has the same shipping address as their call sign information indicates. Ensure you are communicating with people with the listed email address in their call sign lookup information.

    Take measures to ensure you get delivery confirmation for proof, other financial recourse to get your money back if things go awry etc.

    Trust your gut feelings... If it doesn't feel right, don't do it !
     
    Last edited: Jan 16, 2018
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  5. AA7BQ

    AA7BQ Administrator Staff Member Administrator QRZ Page

    Funny you should ask this because we're about to make a new Identity Verified user option available. Some users have already found it.
    With IDVerify, QRZ checks your ID either using something like a driver's license, or, an LOTW digital certificate. Once verified, you get a badge on your user account that says "ID verified".

    Here's the thing, however: It doesn't mean that the person is safe to do business with. It only means that he person has provided proof of identity. We want to make sure that people know the difference because QRZ will not be liable for the outcome of any transaction in the swap meet.
     
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  6. AJ4GQ

    AJ4GQ Ham Member QRZ Page

    What happens with an ID Verified account if a scammer harvests and uses the member's password to gain control of the QRZ account and then posts a scam ad?
     
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  7. AA7BQ

    AA7BQ Administrator Staff Member Administrator QRZ Page

    What you described is the reason everybody should use Two Factor Authentication (2FA). See https://www.qrz.com/manager/two-factor
     
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  8. KF5FEI

    KF5FEI Ham Member QRZ Page

    Other than the relatively obvious, if their QRZ page looks like a vacant house -- be wary.

    i.e. No photos, no text, no email address, no log entries, no posts.
     
  9. AJ4GQ

    AJ4GQ Ham Member QRZ Page

    Sure, I've been using your 2FA and think it's an excellent tool. However, it is hard to find on the menu system and the old non-functioning Two-Step Verification link https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?account/two-step still shows in the User Profile Page and that will probably cause a problem for folks who are trying to find the real 2FA.
     
  10. N6OIL

    N6OIL Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    See guys, I wasn't so crazy after all. Fred, are you going to Yuma next month?
     

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