I really haven't used FT8 in the past. I have never been attracted to it, because I wanted something I could rag chew in, and have always wanted a digital mode that relied less on the internet. People can enjoy it, and I am happy for them. However, I still have this odd personal quirk that makes me feel a mode is of less interest to me, if it requires on "outside help" from the internet. For a mode to be palatable to me, I need it to work on its own... a computer is OK, but I would want it to work in a situation where someone were in the wild, and where there were no satellites or internet to rely on, for any reason. Please explain something for me... does FT8Call rely on a properly-timed internet clock? Is FT8Call different in that I could be in a shack "off the grid" with no internet, and pick it up after several days of non-use, and it would just work? Or does it rely on outside internet information (such as timing, etc) to work properly? Not saying I wouldn't play with FT8Call, but I'm just seeking perspective. Thanks.