A Message to Our Members About Politics

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  1. AA7BQ

    AA7BQ QRZ Founder Administrator QRZ Page

    As QRZ approaches its 28th anniversary we're pleased to report that our organization is doing better than ever and that we continue to grow and expand our offerings in this ever-evolving high-tech world. A lot has changed in 28 years, both for ham radio and the planet, and frankly, we're living in a different world than existed back in 1993.

    QRZ's membership has grown substantially over the years and we're now the number one single amateur radio website in overall traffic. We host amateurs from all over the world and are proud to recognize that at least half of our active members are from outside the United States.

    While we're not a multilingual site, we do serve hams who speak many different languages and come from a diverse cultural swath across the world. We use translation services every day to make sure that we're able to assist our members no matter what their situation. We've rarely found an instance where we can't communicate with another ham, regardless of language.

    Within our ranks of some 800,000 registered users, however, nearly half of them are Americans from the good old USA. One thing that will set the USA callsigns apart from the other listings is how freely many of us are willing to espouse our personal political beliefs in public. At least that's what you might think when you see signatures and avatars that espouse gun rights, religion, party politics, social causes, or cultural identities. It's funny (not laughable, however) that you typically ONLY see such material associated with USA call signs. What does the rest of the world know that we don't? As Americans we’re generally free to speak our minds in public but on a global stage like QRZ, we can be seen as impolite at best or arrogant at worst.

    No politics on QRZ

    Today I am announcing that from this day forward, QRZ will be a non-political place. We will no longer entertain any mention of politics, political parties, politicians, social causes, or virtue signaling. This means everything written in the Forums including personal signatures and avatars. In short, nothing is allowed in the forums that presents a political viewpoint or affiliation of any kind.

    Why the change?

    Stated simply, the purpose of QRZ is to bring people together in the pursuit of common interests. Political speech does just the opposite: it divides people into identity groups. No matter what the viewpoint, a contrary one is held by someone else and there is no likely resolution between the two. Therefore, there is nothing left to do but fight and bicker.

    The vast majority of political topics aren't related to radio in any way, and they do not further the pursuit of this hobby. Political speech on QRZ alienates members from each other and it scares away would-be members not only from QRZ but from the hobby in general. No young person would ever consider joining an online group of grumpy old men, and I can't blame them. So, therefore, I'm announcing today that grumpy old men are on notice to keep your opinions to yourselves. If you find politics interesting or compelling, then please, by all means, seek it out and participate, on a site that is built for that. Not on QRZ.

    How we will implement the No-Politics policy at QRZ

    - The existing Just Talk political forum will be disbanded.

    - The Avatar choices will be limited. The purpose of an avatar is to give a visual cue regarding the poster's identity. A visual cue could be a star, a transistor, an antenna, or a kitten. A confederate flag is also a visual cue, but it clearly contains an underlying message and under our new policy such avatars will not be permitted. Improper avatars will be removed by administrators. We will not provide an appeal process for our decision.

    - We will discontinue support for Forum signatures, except for moderators, staff, and Life Members. A signature is a little one-liner that goes at the bottom of every post you make. Some folks use them to say "73" while others feel the need to spread their political or life philosophy in the space. Since signatures are a shortcut convenience, we feel that if people really want them they can type them in by hand each time. If it's political, however, it will be moderated.

    - Our moderators will remove content that is political. It isn't a left vs. right thing, it's a politics vs no politics thing. Our moderators won't for example, let one political view stand while sanctioning the others. We're going to sanction them all. Don't confuse this with free speech either. Free speech exists in this instance, but not in the way that you might think.

    - Tattling is unwanted. Some of our members will read these rules and then appoint themselves as unofficial monitors and start reporting every infraction that they perceive. Don't do that. Leave that work to someone else, someone who works at QRZ.

    And then there are exceptions...

    Members may write about their personal political thoughts on their call sign pages. We don't recommend it, but it's your choice. We're not going to monitor call sign pages for content because each ham is responsible for his own words. None of the above, however, gives license to attack other people, cultures, or groups. We will not let anyone use QRZ to demean or denigrate others.

    The Forums are a public place, where members are welcome and encouraged to chime in. Politeness and civility are expected in public places. Call sign pages are single voice soapboxes and we support the basic right of people to self-identify. Do note that your Primary Photo has special status. The primary photo is the one at the top of your listing, and the one which might appear on the QRZ front page. This image must be non-political. You may place your political images within the body of your biography page.

    In the Forums, a discussion concerning the FCC and how our hobby is regulated is not considered political unless within the discussion a political party or particular presidential administration is called out. Then it's a purely political discussion that we will not allow. In general, you can protect yourself by arguing with the policy, and not about it’s creator.

    And finally...

    We hope that this new non-politics policy will make QRZ a happier, more inclusive place. Remember, we're here to enjoy amateur radio. Everything else is secondary and everything else is available on other websites. In order to be the very best at what we do, we must stay focused on the hobby above all else.

    73 -fred
     

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  2. KN4KXA

    KN4KXA XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    Good call! I haven't experienced any politics or virtue signaling on QRZ.com personally and am happy that there won't be any.
     
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  3. KI5OOF

    KI5OOF Ham Member QRZ Page

    Fine by me, but don't kid yourself, free speech is being limited. I don't post about politics so it does not upset me. I'm sure it is difficult to deal with some people who don't play nice with others.
     
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  4. K0UO

    K0UO Platinum Subscriber Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    I'm okay with QRZ being about amateur radio.

    Some countries could band QRZ altogether over some of the political views, I've seen over the years.

    I know, It's hard for US citizens to understand this.

    All of us want this forum to stay open to all worldwide.
    K0UO/V31KW
     
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  5. W2JLD

    W2JLD Ham Member QRZ Page

    our last vestige of free speech is now being taken away, what's next the FCC CENSORSHIP, because we as Americans should never ever give up the freedom of speech.

    when you forbid freedom of speech your forbidding what people think or have opinions to.

    so whats next in ham radio
     
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  6. KA9JLM

    KA9JLM Ham Member QRZ Page

    Cool Beans.

    Thank You Fred.

    You are the best. :cool:
     
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  7. WD7R

    WD7R XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    I truly try to avoid controversial and/or inappropriate topics on the air. But this new QRZ policy/“stance” is Un-American IMHO. QRZ.Com appears to be joining the “Woke Cancel Culture” movement and our First Amendment Rights (provided by the US Constitution) are no longer allowed on here? Is QRZ saying they will start “banning” people and deleting posts that QRZ doesn’t agree with, like what is happening on many of the social media platforms? Censorship is wrong IMHO. Also I would hope that QRZ sought legal advice because this could get very interesting when QRZ becomes a “publisher” versus just a platform for free speech. Very sad to hear this. Perhaps it is time to boycott QRZ I guess?
     
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  8. KA9JLM

    KA9JLM Ham Member QRZ Page

    Ham radio was never a place to talk about politics. It seems to always start a fight.

    Basket weaving seems to be safe from politics. That may be a good hobby to enjoy. You can talk about your finger and hand pains when you knit pick.
     
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  9. K5QBF

    K5QBF XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    You really should go read the first amendment before you comment. The right to freedom of speech allows individuals to express themselves without government interference or regulation. QRZ is not the government. It is a private entity and they can tell you what to do on their service. If you don't like it leave.
     
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  10. AE2B

    AE2B Ham Member QRZ Page

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