47 CFR Part 97

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  1. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I have a question for those who've been around amateur radio for a lot longer than me (which is probably most of you that are reading this).

    I have read most of 47 C.F.R. Part 97 and am wondering how you longtimers interpret this section, 97.1 (b), part of the purpose of the amateur radio service:

    "(b) Continuation and extension of the amateur's proven ability to contribute to the advancement of the radio art."

    Now, the way I interpret this is to mean that, upon entry into the amateur radio service, an amateur must have a proven ability to contribute more than just asking questions of people who know more than they do, yet I certainly didn't feel fit to do much of anything but that when I was first licensed. Perhaps this is the section of the "amateur radio section" of 47 C.F.R. that causes the angst we are presently seeing amongst those who do not agree with past (and proposed) changes with regard who is to obtain an amateur radio license?

    I know many parts of codes, statutes and regulations can be interpreted differently by different people. However, this one little subsection continues to vex me as to its applied meaning today.
    I do not know what the original authors of this part of the C.F.R. meant when they wrote "radio art". Seems to me that radio is more science than art, but I probably construe that word differently than someone else might.
     
  2. W5ALT

    W5ALT Ham Member QRZ Page

    I take the "continuation and extension of the radio art" to apply to the Amateur Radio Service as a whole, not to each individual amateur. 97.1 gives the FCC's reason for having an Amateur Radio Service, not a reason for having individual amateurs.

    I see it as at the company where I work. We hire and train new people all the time. Our goal is to maintain a trained staff and advance our technical abilities as a company, but that doesn't mean that everyone we hire has to be already trained and ready to advance the state of the art.

    As far as the word "art," I take that to mean the same thing it means in the expression "state of the art" electronics or engineering. Basically it fits the following dictionary definition:

    "Skill that is attained by study, practice, or observation: the art of the baker; the blacksmith's art. "

    73,
     
  3. N0PU

    N0PU Guest

    ODY:

    I agree with Walt but I take it a step further...

    I look at that as a goal... not something that the licence says you already have but as setting a goal that each of us tries to gain on as we work to be better and better Hams...

    The license, IMHO, is proof that you have the absolute minimum requirements to start your Ham Journey..

    From there you go on your own path to continue your personal education so that you can add value to the Ham community... You may study and use FM communications and procedures and your education adds to the pool of available communicators for the overall service... You may go on to learn about dipoles and their construction... this is a good thing to know in an emergency if you are setting up an HF comm station...

    My point is, every time you learn something you are adding to the pool of useful individuals who can be called on and relied on to perform whatever task is put before them...

    Most of us never get called on to do extra-ordinary things, but we are prepared to do them if we are called....

    THAT is the point of the Amateur Radio Service....

    and we get to have fun doing it... and we get to treat it like a hobby too...

    It is a win-win situation... we agree to add to the overall pool of available persons and we are given certain privileges for the effort we put in...

    Personally I believe in 97.1, and try very hard to live up to its high ideals and its lofty goals... and I try to encourage others to do the same...

    I suppose some would call that idealistic, but it just seems like the right thing to do to me...
     
  4. WA2ZDY

    WA2ZDY Guest

    </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC0ODY @ Feb. 12 2004,21:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I have read most of 47 C.F.R. Part 97 and am wondering how you longtimers interpret this section, 97.1 (b), part of the purpose of the amateur radio service:

    &quot;(b) Continuation and extension of the amateur's proven ability to contribute to the advancement of the radio art.&quot;[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
    No, at one time hams were considered as a whole to be part of a body that met that ideal.  Hams were known to be competent technologically by having past passed the exams of the day as well as demonstrating their ability by merely getting on the air, staying on the air, having high quality signals, and blazing new paths with new and exciting communication methods.  

    When folks speak of ham radio being dumbed down, this is what is being referred to.  Folks are BUYING dipoles now.  Once upon a time, a ham had to know what made his rig and antenna work.  If he didn't, they didn't, and he was thus not on the air. THAT was the &quot;proven ability.&quot;

    Now of course, things are different.  Such is life.

    As for it being an art, that's in the same context that medicine is an art.  Of course both are sciences also but they're arts.
     
  5. K4JSR

    K4JSR Ham Member QRZ Page

    First you have to define &quot;art&quot;. God knows that the US
    Supreme Court can't! They can't even define pornography!
    So that just leaves it at our doorstep. I certainly do not
    consider the modern impressionist style of painting to be
    art, but there those with Mega$ who do.
    I don't know why we would be debating art when a recent
    US President could not define &quot;is&quot;.
    Take a look at a little further down in Part 97.
    Part of what we are about as a hobby is just the sheer enjoyment of experimentation, communications and study
    for no other purpose than our own enjoyment.
    Too many people think that we still monitor the airways for ships calling SOS or MAYDAY for the code impaired.
    The truth is that we actually do that so rarely as to be
    nearly impossible to remember the last time something that
    major happened. This is not to say that we should not be
    ready to assist in an emergency. One never knows when or
    where an emergency will occur. Too many of us view ourselves as knights on white horses, ready to save the world,
    when we can hardly control our mouths on the air.
    Your EMA people need more first responders, administrators,
    and just plain grunt workers than they do communicators.
    So just as with computers, radio hams need to be good at
    multi-tasking. Otherwise we are not solving problems, we are
    making them.
    73, Cal Neff K4JSR CET EMT [​IMG]
     
  6. AC0BE

    AC0BE Ham Member QRZ Page

    It means that the professional community isn't the only place good ideas come from!

    Check out the history of SSB as a transmission mode.

    73 Steve
     
  7. KD7WHQ

    KD7WHQ QRZ Member QRZ Page

    I will never buy a dipole.
    My first two antennas, I built, and I inherited what I have now, or I'd still be building [​IMG]
    Although, I was just about to start stacking J-poles for fun [​IMG]
     
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