2 Meters … The New CB Band Of Interference?

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by WB4IME, Nov 5, 2018.

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  1. WN2C

    WN2C Ham Member QRZ Page

    Sounds more like he is advertising than complaining with that long list of place one can go to do this.
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  2. W3ATT

    W3ATT Ham Member QRZ Page

    It's just a bunch if hype to get everyone excited here in the forums. It's exactly the type of post that generates pages and pages of comments. Look, here's another one hahaha!

    Who cares if they use a cheeeepo ht to chat while in the air. Heck, maybe they have some top of the line ht's.. who are we to assume?

    Many others like hunters and hikers are doing the same thing. I know of many hunting clubs who bought packs of radios for use in hunting.. I'm not the FCC, and I don't even hear them so there's nothing I can (or should) do about it.. Do you go and call the cops on every driver who exceeds the speed limit?

    Just as some smug hams have told me that life's too short for QRP, I say life's too short to worry about such trivial things as looking up places to fly a powered parachute in every damn state in the US and posting it to a forum.

    Get a life
    AD0FS, W8YIH, K6MTS and 3 others like this.
  3. N2NOW

    N2NOW Premium Subscriber QRZ Page

    Hmm, very interesting (Sgt.Schultz)... Lol:D
    I do not own 2mtr or 70cm radios any longer - strictly on HF these days. Got rid of all 2/70 equipment many years ago. Amen...
    Last edited: Nov 7, 2018
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  4. N7KFD

    N7KFD Ham Member QRZ Page

    There have been some very interesting responses to this post, here's a different approach. A ham friend of mine got involved in paragliding, he discovered the group of people he was flying with was using 2 meters illegally. He called a local club and organized a one day learn and test day. I don't recall the exact number but I know they licensed over twenty people that day. SO put away the shotgun shells and the nerf launchers and approach these people, let them know what they are doing is against FCC regulations and see if they would be interested in taking a one day licensing class. It will take some effort on your part but it will be worth it for everyone in the long run.
    NUITSBLANCHES, WB9YZU, KW4ZW and 9 others like this.
  5. AI3V

    AI3V Ham Member QRZ Page

    It's a shame you never learned the difference between malum prohibitum and malum in se.

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  6. AI3V

    AI3V Ham Member QRZ Page

    If the satellites required some sort of technical ability to work you might have a point.

    You can't complain when a repeater is placed in orbit such that a 25 dollar radio is all it takes, then complain those dam 25 dollar radios are interfering.

    Let's be honest here, current amateur satellites are just expensive cb radios.

  7. AI3V

    AI3V Ham Member QRZ Page

    And in this thread we learn who some of the homicidal maniacs are.

    Shooting at a HUMAN BEING because you dont like what radio he's talking on.


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  8. K7JEM

    K7JEM Ham Member QRZ Page

    I would take exception to your comments here. Nodes and hotspots are considered "auxiliary stations" and are allowed in the vast majority of the 2M spectrum. They are not any more legal or illegal in the spectrum where they are allowed than simplex use. They are not prohibited from operating on repeater input or output frequencies, as long as they are not creating interference. They are allowed to be automatically controlled, so they can be as unattended as a beacon or repeater, which can also operate under automatic control.

    There are some that operate in areas not authorized to aux stations, and these are simply illegal. But there is no reason an unused frequency on 2M cannot be used for these purposes, as long as it is in the aux subband.
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  9. WQ4G

    WQ4G Ham Member QRZ Page

    You have suggested a very positive way to deal with the situation. And, one that does not pit one group of users against the other, if handled properly.

    As others have said, in previous posts, the Ham Bands are (supposed) to be 'self policing.' And, historically, that what was done. However, IMO, the definition and meaning of 'self policing' has, for some, changed over time.

    Self policing used to mean that a Ham, or bunch of Hams (club), would make recordings, triangulate the offenders location, obtain a name, address, call (if possible) and otherwise do the necessary investigative work to build a dossier on the individual. The dossier would then be handed over to the FCC in a formal complaint.

    Self policing does not mean calling the FCC and complaining about 14.313 or about the Good Buddies' language up on 80 meters. As we all know the FCC does not have the budget or man power to perform the investigations. And, generally speaking, the FCC does not go looking for offenders on the Ham Bands. But, if a group of Hams start complaining, makes numerous complaints, and supplies the FCC with a Dossier on the offender(s) and their egregious behavior then it is more likely the FCC will respond. The proverbial 'squeaky wheel' gets the grease.

    Dan KI4AX
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  10. WG7X

    WG7X Platinum Subscriber Platinum Subscriber QRZ Page

    Just goes to show that the old adage about nothing new in the universe is really new is itself very true. If you have been on QRZ long enough you might remember this subject coming up years ago. Nothing was done then and nothing will be done now either.

    I'm not saying that the OP is wrong, because he isn't. The problem then and now is simply that posting a thread on a website accomplishes nothing. The FCC have apparently given up on amateur radio enforcement. We are supposed to be " self policing"? We cannot do that now with licensed hams, how in the world are we supposed to "police" unlicensed individuals?

    Vigilante operations? Mass protests in the front yard?

    Neither option will work. The ready availability of cheap handhelds has probably made this problem worse, but it's not a new problem and we still haven't got a viable solution.

    Sorry for this contribution to thread drift...

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