I get your frustration; I don't disagree with you and appreciate your support. I'm also glad that wasn't another Mr. Wilson yelling at Dennis. Unfortunately it kind of went too far the other way. - neither Dennis nor his parents ever yelled at Mr. Wilson, afaik. You make valid points and i would be nice if we were in a perfect world where all that stuff is happening but we aren't and it is so here I sit trying to figure out a simple single wire vertical dipole to wrap up into one of the lines to see if I can get my pilot buddies on GMRS and probably scare most of them at the merest thought of attaching something to one of their lines ...