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2 Meters … The New CB Band Of Interference?

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by WB4IME, Nov 5, 2018.

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  1. WA6AM

    WA6AM Ham Member QRZ Page

    I see something like that fly by me ……...I say "PULL"!
     
  2. KG5PTE

    KG5PTE Ham Member QRZ Page

    I agree that using these VHF frequencies is wrong. But to Stereotype people that talk on 11 meters (CB Radio) as rouge law breakers is wrong. I still use CB Radio and have no plan to stop. But I do operate it legally. And use it to help communicate traffic conditions on the I-35 corridor here in Central Texas. But yes there are a lot of CB operaters that operate illegally just like some Hams operate on HF and use profanity. 73's for now KG5PTE on the Ham Radio Gearbox on the CB.
     
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  3. KQ6XA

    KQ6XA Ham Member QRZ Page

    Part of the problem is that a lot of hams call the Amateur Radio Service a hobby.
    It is a service.

    Using the service certainly may be a hobby to many operators, but calling it
    "only a hobby"
    "the hobby"
    "it's just a hobby" ​
    paves the way to disrespect for ham radio as a licensed service.

    That is certainly part of the root problem in this particular situation :)
     
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  4. AC8KW

    AC8KW Ham Member QRZ Page

    Are you serious ? I was going to write a long dissertation on this matter but I can't stop laughing :)
     
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  5. K7JEM

    K7JEM Ham Member QRZ Page

    But it IS a hobby, and "only" a hobby since it can't be anything other than a hobby.

    The FCC calls all divisions of radio a "service", because that is the definition of service that they are using, " an administrative division (as of a government or business) "
     
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  6. AG6QR

    AG6QR Subscriber QRZ Page

    By calling it a service, you bring it to the level of the CB Radio Service, or the kid's blister pack Family Radio Service. The FCC calls every use of the airwaves a service, so it's not as though that term carries any connotation of being worthy or good.

    The definition of a hobby is something done without pecuniary interest, and that aspect of our hobby is written into the rules.

    I think either term is accurate. What's not accurate is belief that the term "service" somehow sets us apart from any of the other services that the FCC regulates.
     
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  7. KQ6XA

    KQ6XA Ham Member QRZ Page

    Please point out the word "hobby" in an ITU or FCC official regulatory definition, basis, and purpose of the Amateur Radio Service.
    Just the facts.
    A link to the ITU or FCC document text would be fine.
     
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  8. KQ6XA

    KQ6XA Ham Member QRZ Page

    "Without pecuniary interest" is not the definition of hobby.
    Actually, there are many hobbies that involve quite a lot of pecuniary interest.
    So, that fact in itself deflates your hobby horse :)
     
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  9. KQ6XA

    KQ6XA Ham Member QRZ Page

    USA: Code of Federal Regulations
    Title 47 → Chapter I → Subchapter D → Part 97
    Title 47: Telecommunication
    Subpart A—General Provisions
    FCC PART 97—AMATEUR RADIO SERVICE

    §97.1 Basis and purpose.

    The rules and regulations in this part are designed to provide an amateur radio service having a fundamental purpose as expressed in the following principles:
    (a) Recognition and enhancement of the value of the amateur service to the public as a voluntary noncommercial communication service, particularly with respect to providing emergency communications.
    (b) Continuation and extension of the amateur's proven ability to contribute to the advancement of the radio art.
    (c) Encouragement and improvement of the amateur service through rules which provide for advancing skills in both the communication and technical phases of the art.
    (d) Expansion of the existing reservoir within the amateur radio service of trained operators, technicians, and electronics experts.
    (e) Continuation and extension of the amateur's unique ability to enhance international goodwill.​

    §97.3 Definitions.
    (a) The definitions of terms used in part 97 are:
    (1) Amateur operator. A person named in an amateur operator/primary license station grant on the ULS consolidated licensee database to be the control operator of an amateur station.
    (2) Amateur radio services. The amateur service, the amateur-satellite service and the radio amateur civil emergency service.
    (4) Amateur service. A radiocommunication service for the purpose of self-training, intercommunication and technical investigations carried out by amateurs, that is, duly authorized persons interested in radio technique solely with a personal aim and without pecuniary interest.
    (5) Amateur station. A station in an amateur radio service consisting of the apparatus necessary for carrying on radiocommunications.

    ITU - Radio Regulations ITU_R-REG-RR-2016
    Articles, Edition of 2016

    ARTICLE 1
    Terms and definitions
    Section I – General terms


    1.56
    amateur service:
    A radiocommunication service for the purpose of self-training, intercommunication and technical investigations carried out by amateurs, that is, by duly authorized persons interested in radio technique solely with a personal aim and without pecuniary interest.​
     
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  10. K7JEM

    K7JEM Ham Member QRZ Page

    The word "amateur" itself means "hobbiest" in almost all dictionaries online. If you do something for your own personal aim, and without pecuniary interest, then you have a hobby.

    I think you need to point out when amateur radio is "not a hobby". That will be hard to do.
     

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