13 Colonies Special Event - Fail! Rant ....

Discussion in 'Contests, DXpeditions and Special Events' started by KE4OH, Jul 16, 2018.

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  1. K4VBB

    K4VBB XML Subscriber QRZ Page

    Uhhh..........I meant to do that.
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  2. KU2US

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    For K2B 2018 there was a problem. The State Manager just up and left! He never ordered cards and the cards that were available were from 2017., and they ran out fast! Once I found that out I had to do something, so as crass it appeared a download/fill out your self card was placed on the K2B QRZ page. I then paid for MYSELF qsl cards for K2B for 2019, and found a team that would be the QSL card managers. A new State manager was recruited and a new team.

    Why did the K2B manager leave?? Why did he let the QSL cards go?? From communication I found out he was sick and tired for several years, getting QSL card requests with no SASE, Post card Qsl's, QSL cards with no info on them, QSL cards for other colony states, et.et.. Even though I don't blame him, I disagree with the way it was done. It cost me $160.00 for new 2019 K2B QSL cards out of my pocket, SO who was the guy who wants his stamps back??

    Do you think this was done on purpose? If you do, you are misinformed. If some one says send in $2.00 for a card? DON'T! Most cards for 2020 will be funded out of the 13 Colonies account, so there will be no excuses. I can't promise this now because I am not through with all of the certs,, but if enough is left over this will be done.

    Please understand that all of the Colony Op's are volunteers. They love doing this, and have fun. The try to give out as many "Q''s" as possible, BUT, When the LIDS arrive, throwing carriers, broadcasting music, by the #'s jumping out of turn, running Digi on the same frequency, putting out CW over the SSB sigs, ALL AT THE SAME TIME? And I just about know who they all are to! Some are so stupid they put out FT8 interference with their call sign! And yet, the beat goes on! And it will continue.. If you have a problem? Email me. Let me know what your concerns are! I can see that there are certain op's that all they do is frequent these forums and complain, but offer no suggestions. You know who you are and so do I. But, as Old Blue Eyes says! It still was "a very good year" :)
    Last edited: Jul 27, 2019
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  3. WR2E

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    In a large part due to your efforts Ken!

    Thank you!
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  4. KC2VAE

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    I was attempting to contact one of the New Hampshire stations repeatedly , he repeated my call sign once but when I responded he didnt want to bother trying a little to make a legitimate contact.So I wasnt eligible for a certificate, Im glad now!
  5. KC2VAE

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    LOL , I suppose, I was just ranting, sour grapes I guess.
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  6. K8BZ

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    This always was and still is a great special event that requires far more participation and coordination by a dedicated team than your typical one man operation for a county hog calling contest.

    When something goes sour it doesn't take long to be noticed and have attention brought to it. I can see why a manager would get tired of receiving QSL requests from those who can't read the instructions or choose to ignore them. I'm not a QSL manager but I would simply ignore the requests that did not comply with the SASE request or other requirements.

    From reading the responses it seems clear to me that if anyone deserves the wrath of the participants it is the dead beats who spoiled it for everyone. I sure don't blame the participants who worked their ass off to coordinate and put on the event, and then feel guilty if they don't compensate out of their own pocket for the dead beasts who cant follow instructions. And then have to have thick enough skin to not let the complaints drive them away from future participation.

    It's nice to get all the cards and the certificate. I have a few sets myself. But if there is a fly in the ointment, just let the activity be its own reward.

    Celebrating patriotism is still a good thing, even if you don't have all the QSLs to prove you did it.
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  7. KU2US

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    K8BZ: I fully agree with what you said, BUT! If the QSL card manager disregards the deadbeat Lids who can't follow instructions? THEN that deadbeat Lid ends up on forums like this one! Giving everyone a bad name. THEN the other Lids, who forgot to take their anger management pills, join in!
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  8. K8BZ

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    Yes, some of the others would definitely join in. At the risk of appearing like I'm trying to tell the operators/organizers how to do their job I will just saw what I would do in a sentence or two below. But first, I would like to say that the Original 13 Colonies Special Event is a great thing and I hope it continues every year. I wish I lived in one of the original 13 so I could volunteer to be one of the operators. I would love it. I was an operator in the ARRL centennial SE and made over 5,000 contacts from Michigan as W1AW/8.

    Now, with that being said, if I were responsible for one of the colony operations and QRZ page I would make sure that something like this appeared at the very top of the QRZ page listing:

    K2WHATEVER QSL Instructions:
    SASE Required for a response to US addresses. All others $2 to cover cost of postage. We will be unable to respond via the bureau, but will upload to LoTW. Very sorry but no SASE or $2 for non US addresses means no QSL response.

    Then, if I saw a deadbeat respond in a negative way I could just copy and paste the above instructions from the QRZ page in response and forget about it. Responsible hams would understand, and deadbeats would still be deadbeats no matter what you do. So I wouldn't loose any sleep over it.

    In closing, a very sincere thank you to everyone involved in this very nice special event. Don't let a few complaints whether from without or from within your group discourage you from continuing this operation every year. The team effort of dedicated individuals is very evident and much appreciated by countless hams who look forward to this event. From the very first running of this event I have heard lots of on the air discussions between hams about how many colonies they worked; how much they enjoy the event; and how they are still trying to pick up the colonies they need.

    Very few special events generate as much interest and participation. I believe part of the excitement is that making a clean sweep in this event is achievable by an average 100 watt station using wire antennas. The certificates are always nicely designed and are new every year. I can't think of a better reason to hold a special event than the founding of our country. Thanks again and keep up the good work.
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  9. AA4UC

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    I look forward to this event every year and appreciate all the effort it must take to put on an event like this. Unfortunately if you go to their website http://www.13colonies.net/ you will see that all is not well in paradise. From www.13colonies.net:

    13 Colonies WEB SITE is down as of 07/14/2019

    After many years and hundreds of hours of web design and free hosting, I have decided NOT TO BE A PART OF 13 Colonies any longer.

    I have discovered many things regarding 13 Colonies, and I will not share my opinion of this event.

    MANY peole have e mailed me questioning the motives of this event, which I will not comment on.

    I have nothing to do with the operation of this event, creation of this event, printing or delivering of any certificates or the collection of money sent in.

    I personally have not collected any money from this event, and will not and have not taken any payments for my services.

    I unlike others have NOT made a profit on this event.
    Apparently there is some internal conflict over the running of this event. The last line appears to be a not so veiled allegation of financial improprieties which would be shocking if true. This may explain the lack of quality I've noticed in the recent certificate(s). The 2019 certificate IMHO is by far the worst one. This certificate appears to be printed on flimsy copy paper by an inkjet printer, with dirty rollers, running out of ink! I hope it all gets sorted out and this event continues as it is just plain fun regardless of the quality of certificate issued.
    Last edited: Aug 11, 2019
  10. KU2US

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