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Baofeng GT-5R.... "Legal" Model

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In this video we review and program the new Baofeng GT-5R radio from Radioddity. According to Radioddity the Baofeng GT-5R is 100% legal with the FCC. the Baofeng GT-5R has 128 memory channels and is rated for 4 watts on high and 1 watt on low with a max power output of 5 watts. The Baofeng GT-5R looks, feels and operates exactly like a Baofeng UV-5R. For the price the Baofeng GT-5R is the PERFECT radio for a beginner, a backup radio, or for licensed kids to keep on them at school.

WJ6F, May 21, 2021

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Excellent video.
I have baofeng radios that I purchased from wish.
I use them to monitor the local frequencies.
But since the ones I have don’t have FCC compliance stated on them,I don’t use them to transmit.
I have a kenwood thd74 to transmit on.

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I think it would be excellent if the local schools would allow students to learn about amateur radio and the digital platform.
Baofeng is a good radio to start out on to learn the basics.

KO4ESA, May 21, 2021

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KO4ESA said: ↑

I think it would be excellent if the local schools would allow students to learn about amateur radio and the digital platform.
Baofeng is a good radio to start out on to learn the basics.
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There is a YouTuber who is a teacher and does help his students get their license. Ham Radio is the Original STEM. One of my kids will be attending college next year and she found out while applying for college that quite a number of the universities have amateur radio clubs. If my high school had, had an amateur radio club or the like I might have actually showed up!

WJ6F, May 21, 2021

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Great work, Craig!

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KC5HWB said: ↑

Great work, Craig!
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Thanks for taking the time to watch the video!

WJ6F, May 21, 2021

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WJ6F said: ↑

There is a YouTuber who is a teacher and does help his students get their license. Ham Radio is the Original STEM. One of my kids will be attending college next year and she found out while applying for college that quite a number of the universities have amateur radio clubs. If my high school had, had an amateur radio club or the like I might have actually showed up!
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Does good work with the kids... K5ATA: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeo_lBRLoYmIxjOGtOr0nKw

K9GLS, May 22, 2021

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Great video, thanks! May have to consider one of these as a throw in the car radio.

N6JPG, May 23, 2021

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KO4ESA said: ↑

Excellent video.
I have baofeng radios that I purchased from wish.
I use them to monitor the local frequencies.
But since the ones I have don’t have FCC compliance stated on them,I don’t use them to transmit.
I have a kenwood thd74 to transmit on.
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You can transmit all you want to, there is no FCC type acceptance for ham gear You can even make your own radio and use it

N3HGB, May 24, 2021

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N3HGB said: ↑

You can transmit all you want to, there is no FCC type acceptance for ham gear You can even make your own radio and use it
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Yes, there is. Radios that are manufactured for sale must be FCC approved. That’s why when a store announces a new radio, they have text accompanying it saying that the ad is not an offer to sell, as they cannot offer it for sale until it is certified by the FCC.

Title 47: Telecommunication
PART 2—FREQUENCY ALLOCATIONS AND RADIO TREATY MATTERS; GENERAL RULES AND REGULATIONS
Subpart I—Marketing of Radio-frequency Devices

(iii) (A) A radio frequency device may be advertised or displayed, (e.g., at a trade show or exhibition) if accompanied by a conspicuous notice containing this language:

This device has not been authorized as required by the rules of the Federal Communications Commission. This device is not, and may not be, offered for sale or lease, or sold or leased, until authorization is obtained.
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https://www.fcc.gov/engineering-technology/laboratory-division/general/equipment-authorization

Hams are allowed to self-certify transmitters that they built for their own use and can even transfer the equipment to another like licensee, but they cannot manufacture and sell equipment on a commercial basis without FCC approval.

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§97.315 Certification of external RF power amplifiers.

(a) Any external RF power amplifier (see §2.815 of the FCC Rules) manufac- tured or imported for use at an ama- teur radio station must be certificated for use in the amateur service in ac- cordance with subpart J of part 2 of the FCC Rules. No amplifier capable of op- eration below 144 MHz may be con- structed or modified by a non-amateur service licensee without a grant of cer- tification from the FCC.
(b) The requirement of paragraph (a) does not apply if one or more of the fol- lowing conditions are met:
(1) The amplifier is constructed or modified by an amateur radio operator for use at an amateur station.
(2) The amplifier was manufactured before April 28, 1978, and has been issued a marketing waiver by the FCC, or the amplifier was purchased before April 28, 1978, by an amateur radio op- erator for use at that operator’s sta- tion.
(3) The amplifier is sold to an ama- teur radio operator or to a dealer, the amplifier is purchased in used condi- tion by a dealer, or the amplifier is sold to an amateur radio operator for use at that operator’s station.

(c) Any external RF power amplifier appearing in the Commission’s data- base as certificated for use in the ama- teur service may be marketed for use in the amateur service.
[71 FR 66465, Nov. 15, 2006]
§97.317 Standards for certification of external RF power amplifiers.
(a) To receive a grant of certifi- cation, the amplifier must:
(1) Satisfy the spurious emission standards of §97.307 (d) or (e) of this part, as applicable, when the amplifier is operated at the lesser of 1.5 kW PEP or its full output power and when the amplifier is placed in the ‘‘standby’’ or ‘‘off’’ positions while connected to the transmitter.
(2) Not be capable of amplifying the input RF power (driving signal) by more than 15 dB gain. Gain is defined as the ratio of the input RF power to the output RF power of the amplifier where both power measurements are expressed in peak envelope power or mean power.
(3) Exhibit no amplification (0 dB gain) between 26 MHz and 28 MHz.
(b) Certification shall be denied when:
(1) The Commission determines the amplifier can be used in services other than the Amateur Radio Service, or
(2) The amplifier can be easily modi- fied to operate on frequencies between 26 MHz and 28 MHz.
[71 FR 66465, Nov. 15, 2006]
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Subpart J—Equipment Authorization Procedures
SOURCE: 39 FR 5919, Feb. 15, 1974, unless otherwise noted.

§2.1043 Changes in certificated equip- ment.

(e) Equipment that has been certifi- cated or formerly type accepted for use in the Amateur Radio Service pursuant to the requirements of part 97 of this chapter may be modified without re- gard to the conditions specified in paragraph (b) of this section, provided the following conditions are met:
(1) Any person performing such modi- fications on equipment used under part 97 of this chapter must possess a valid amateur radio operator license of the class required for the use of the equip- ment being modified.
(2) Modifications made pursuant to this paragraph are limited to equip- ment used at licensed amateur radio stations.
(3) Modifications specified or per- formed by equipment manufacturers or suppliers must be in accordance with the requirements set forth in para- graph (b) of this section.
(4) Modifications specified or per- formed by licensees in the Amateur Radio Service on equipment other than that at specific licensed amateur radio stations must be in accordance with the requirements set forth in para- graph (b) of this section.
(5) The station licensee shall be re- sponsible for ensuring that modified equipment used at his station will com- ply with the applicable technical standards in part 97 of this chapter.
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§2.1060 Equipment for use in the ama- teur radio service.
(a) The general provisions of §§2.925, 2.1031, 2.1033, 2.1041, 2.1043, 2.1051, 2.1053 and 2.1057 shall apply to applications for, and grants of, certification for equipment operated under the require- ments of part 97 of this chapter, the Amateur Radio Service.
(b) When performing the tests speci- fied in §§2.1051 and 2.1053 of this part, the center of the transmitted band- width shall be within the operating fre- quency band by an amount equal to 50 percent of the bandwidth utilized for the tests. In addition, said tests shall be made on at least one frequency in each of the bands within which the equipment is capable of tuning.
(c) Certification of external radio fre- quency power amplifiers may be denied when denial would prevent the use of these amplifiers in services other than the Amateur Radio Service.
[63 FR 36601, July 7, 1998, as amended at 71 FR 66461, Nov. 15, 2006]
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§ 2.1202 Exclusions.
§ 2.1204 Import conditions.

§ 2.1202 Exclusions.
The provisions of this section do not apply to the importation of:
(a) Cameras, musical greeting cards, quartz watches and clocks, modules of quartz watches and clocks, hand-held calculators and electronic games, and other similar unintentional radiators which utilize low level battery power and which do not contain provisions for operation while connected to AC power lines.
(b) Unintentional radiators which are exempted from technical standards and other requirements as specified in § 15.103 of this chapter.
(c) Radio frequency devices manufactured and assembled in the U.S.A. that meet applicable FCC technical standards and which have not been modified or received further assembly.
(d) Radio frequency devices previously properly imported that have been exported for repair and re-imported for use.
(e) Subassemblies, parts, or components of radio frequency devices unless they constitute an essentially completed device which requires only the addition of cabinets, knobs, speakers, or similar minor attachments before marketing or use. Form 740 information will be required to be submitted for computer circuit boards that are actually peripheral devices as defined in § 15.3(r) of this chapter and all devices that, by themselves, are subject to FCC marketing rules.

[56 FR 26619, June 10, 1991; 56 FR 32474, July 16, 1991]
§ 2.1204 Import conditions.
(a) Radio frequency devices may be imported only if one or more of these conditions are met:
(1) The radio frequency device has been issued an equipment authorization by the FCC.
(2) The radio frequency device is not required to have an equipment authorization and the device complies with FCC technical administrative regulations.
(3) The radio frequency device is being imported in quantities of 4,000 or fewer units for testing and evaluation to determine compliance with the FCC Rules and Regulations, product development, or suitability for marketing. The devices will not be offered for sale or marketed.
(i) Prior to importation of a greater number of units than shown in paragraph (a)(3) of this section, written approval must be obtained from the Chief, Office of Engineering and Technology, FCC; and
(ii) Distinctly different models of a device and separate generations of a particular model under development are considered to be separate devices.
(4) The radio frequency device is being imported in limited quantities for demonstration at industry trade shows and the device will not be offered for sale or marketed. The phrase “limited quantities,” in this context means:
(i) 200 or fewer units, provided the product is designed solely for operation within one of the Commission's authorized radio services for which an operating license is required to be issued by the Commission; or
(ii) 10 or fewer units for all other products.
(iii) Prior to importation of a greater number of units than shown above, written approval must be obtained from the Chief, Office of Engineering and Technology, FCC.
(iv) Distinctly different models of a product and separate generations of a particular model under development are considered to be separate devices.
(5) The radio frequency device is being imported solely for export. The device will not be marketed or offered for sale in the U.S., except:
(i) If the device is a foreign standard cellular phone solely capable of functioning outside the U.S.
(ii) If the device is a multi-mode wireless handset that has been certified under the Commission's rules and a component (or components) of the handset is a foreign standard cellular phone solely capable of functioning outside the U.S.
(6) The radio frequency device is being imported for use exclusively by the U.S. Government.
(7) Three or fewer radio receivers, computers, or other unintentional radiators as defined in part 15 of this chapter, are being imported for the individual's personal use and are not intended for sale.
(8) The radio frequency device is being imported for repair and will not be offered for sale or marketed.
(9) The radio frequency device is a medical implant transmitter inserted in a person or a medical body-worn transmitter as defined in part 95, granted entry into the United States or is a control transmitter associated with such an implanted or body-worn transmitter, provided, however that the transmitters covered by this provision otherwise comply with the technical requirements applicable to transmitters authorized to operate in the Medical Device Radiocommunication Service (MedRadio) under part 95 of this chapter. Such transmitters are permitted to be imported without the issuance of a grant of equipment authorization only for the personal use of the person in whom the medical implant transmitter has been inserted or on whom the medical body-worn transmitter is applied.
(10) Three or fewer portable earth-station transceivers, as defined in § 25.129 of this chapter, are being imported by a traveler as personal effects and will not be offered for sale or lease in the United States.
(b) The ultimate consignee must be able to document compliance with the selected import condition and the basis for determining the import condition applied.
[56 FR 26619, June 10, 1991, as amended at 57 FR 38286, Aug. 24, 1992; 61 FR 8477, Mar. 5, 1996; 63 FR 31646, June 10, 1998; 64 FR 69929, Dec. 15, 1999; 64 FR 72572, Dec. 28, 1999; 69 FR 5709, Feb. 6, 2004; 74 FR 22704, May 14, 2009; 78 FR 25162, Apr. 29, 2013]
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§ 15.23 Home-built devices.

(a) Equipment authorization is not required for devices that are not marketed, are not constructed from a kit, and are built in quantities of five or less for personal use.
(b) It is recognized that the individual builder of home-built equipment may not possess the means to perform the measurements for determining compliance with the regulations. In this case, the builder is expected to employ good engineering practices to meet the specified technical standards to the greatest extent practicable. The provisions of § 15.5 apply to this equipment.
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(edit: 1.903 doesn’t seem to apply)

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In case you were wondering why Part 90 transceivers don’t have VFOs and why it’s so hard to program Motorola radios:
90.203:

(e) Except as provided in paragraph (g) of this section, transmitters designed to operate above 25 MHz shall not be certified for use under this part if the operator can program and transmit on frequencies, other than those programmed by the manufacturer, service or maintenance personnel, using the equipment's external operation controls.

(f) Except as provided in paragraph (g) of this section, transmitters designed to operate above 25 MHz that have been approved prior to January 15, 1988, and that permit the operator, by using external controls, to program the transmitter's operating frequencies, shall not be manufactured in, or imported into the United States after March 15, 1988. Marketing of these transmitters shall not be permitted after March 15, 1989.

(g) Transmitters having frequency programming capability and that are designed to operate above 25 MHz are exempt from paragraphs (e) and (f) of this section if the design of such transmitters:

(1) Is such that transmitters with external controls normally available to the operator must be internally modified to place the equipment in the programmable mode. Further, while in the programmable mode, the equipment shall not be capable of transmitting. The procedures for making the modification and altering the frequency program shall not be made available with the operating information normally supplied to the end user of the equipment; or

(2) Requires the transmitter to be programmed for frequencies through controls normally inaccessible to the operator; or

(3) Requires equipment to be programmed for frequencies through use of external devices or specifically programmed modules made available only to service/maintenance personnel; or

(4) Requires equipment to be programmed through cloning (copying a program directly from another transmitter) using devices and procedures made available only to service/maintenance personnel.
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If you want to see a list of certified Baofeng radios: search grantee code 2AGND at https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/GenericSearch.cfm

An example letter attempting to justify the extended frequency coverage of a Part 90 transceiver: https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=3062016

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