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MIAMI RADIO AMATEURS WILL BE LAUNCHING FOUR HIGH ALTITUDE BALLONS. SHOULD CIRCUMNAVIGATE PLANET.

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by K4LCD, Sep 13, 2019.

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  1. K4LCD

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    MIAMI HIGH ALTITUDE CIRCUMNAVIGATING BALLOON PROJECT·
    FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 13, 2019·

    MIAMI HIGH ALTITUDE CIRCUMNAVIGATING BALLOON PROJECT plans to launch four High Altitude balloons that should reach an altitude of approximately 10,000 meters (32,800 feet), hopefully circumnavigating our planet Earth.

    They are tentatively scheduled to be launched in November 2019, December 2019, January 2020 and February 2020.

    Each balloon voyage after launch should be trackable. They will be carrying a very light payload powered by Solar Cells, with GPS and sensors capable of transmitting in HF in Hybrid WSPR Mode every two minutes during daylight: its ID, Location, Altitude, Temperature, and Voltage.

    If you are a Teacher, or an Advanced Student at any of our Colleges and Universities Science, Technology, Engineering or Math Programs and are interested in what we are doing we would love to hear from you. Please contact us at miamihab@gmail.com

    Please visit us at our website: https://sites.google.com/view/miamihab/home
     
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  2. G3SEA

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    Cool ! :cool:

    G3SEA/KH6
     
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  3. W0AEW

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    Their documentation states they will send their telemetry in Hybrid WSPR mode. I'm not familiar with the hybrid form of WSPR. Does it rearrange the decoded material to make it easier to see the voltage, temperature, altitude, and other data in place of the usual SNR, grid, power, etc.? Is this the spreadsheet "decoder" or has there been an application created that's easier to use?
     
  4. K4LCD

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    Thank you for your reply.
    This is the link
    To access the uTrak Telemetry Dashboard: https://utlm.loetlabor-jena.de/index.php?flight=0x13
    With regards, 73
    Juan /K4LCD
     
  5. K8ERV

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    Does the balloon circle around the earth or does the earth rotate under the balloon?

    TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo
     
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  6. K4LCD

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    Thank you Tom.
    Hopefully, the balloons will join the Jet-stream when reaching altitude. Then they should start their voyage around the planet, if they survive storms and other hazards, one of which is that its payload could stop transmitting...
    With regrds, 73
    Juan /K4LCD
     
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  7. W7UUU

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    Not trying to be a smart Alec, but isn't the altitude of 32,000 feet right where commercial aircraft fly? Would this be a danger to air travel if it "circumvents the planet"?

    Just seems really LOW to me for stuff like this, with range covering "Earth"

    What would be the result if a 737 or A320 "at cruise altitude" encountered one of the balloons? I fly quite a lot for business, and just yesterday they announced my cruising altitude for the flight from Salt Lake to Seattle was at.... 32 thousand feet!

    Just curious - not trying to be critical - just wondering what the safeguards are since this is declared as "circumnavigates the planet" x four such balloons...

    Thanks

    Dave
    W
     
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  8. K4LCD

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    Thank you Dave.
    One OUNCE has 28.5 GRAMS... Our payload weight only about 8.5 Grams. Our balloons are inexpensive like Party Balloons and the gas is pure Helium.
    Hundreds of weather balloons are launched each day with payloads of several pounds.
    I suggest you google Pico Ballons and High Altitude Balloon launches and youtube for more info. and https://tracker.habhub.org/ .
    With regards 73,
    Juan K4LCD
     
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  9. K0UO

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    If that is the case just for safety they really need ADS- B reporting transponder, since the payload is over 10,000/18,000 ft and not higher than 60,000, for aircraft safety, FAA law on 1/ 2020 requires aircraft,to be in compliance
     
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  10. K4LCD

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    Would you kindly print here the text of FAA Law that you refer to? We would all be interest to read it, as well as all those in the U.S. and all over the world engaged in this Hobby. With regards and 73, Juan /K4LCD
     
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  12. N6KZB

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    Every balloon launch, someone has an issue about aircraft collisions.

    You should just copy the text and post it as soon as you open the topic, that way you get it over with.
     
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  13. K0UO

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    Apparently these are not really high altitude balloons it's a different scenario than most balloon launches I've been around where they go up to 60 to 100,000 ft in a very short amount of time. This has been pointed out by others also. The group posted that it would be in the thirty thousand foot range which is where all the commercial Aviation Airline transport exist.
    When the next passenger jet you're on section one of those things in it won't be such a joke then.
    I saw a skydiver get struck by a balloon and it darn near killed him about 10 years ago,
    I don't have any problems with balloon launches as long as everyone knows where they're at, That's why the ADS-B program has been launched for all control airspace, to help avoid collisions worldwide
     
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  14. K0UO

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    Flying below 60,000 feet at night these special visibility requirements from the FAA apply, along with all the other nations that they're flying over.

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    To get approved five mile visibility even using modern LED it would definitely suck their payload battery down.
    Flying above 60000 feet you don't have to worry about that kind of stuff
     
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  15. W7UUU

    W7UUU Director, QRZ Forums Lifetime Member 133 QRZ HQ Staff Life Member QRZ Page

    In the vein of a previous post just up the page:

    "Every balloon launch, someone has an issue about aircraft collisions and points out Federal FAA Law which forbids doing such things and it just gets ignored.

    Such folks should just copy the text saying "We duly ignore FAA regulations so please don't remind us" and post it as soon as they open the topic, that way they get it over with"

    ;)

    Dave
    W7UUU
     
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