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FCC Extends Waiver Permitting Use of PACTOR 4 for Hurricane Relief Efforts

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by KS2G, Sep 6, 2019.

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  1. KS2G

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  2. KQ6XA

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    PACTOR 4.
    America's FCC wants it to pop into existence --out of thin air-- during times of emergency.
    Then later, they want to put it back in the Technology Jail.

    What would hams say if they did that with SSB?
     
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  3. KX0DW

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    The sarcasm is misdirected. The FCC didn't ask for PACTOR-4 to be put to use: the League did. The FCC simply approved the request and then an extension.
     
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  4. K0IDT

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    Will it actually see any use this time? 3-4 previous STA fails say it won't be used, or needed.
     
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  5. KK5JY

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    That's what I want to know, as well. Are there any AR hurricane operations? Are they operations that can't be done with other normally-street-legal modes?
     
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  6. K9CTB

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    If we're truly interested in "advancing the radio art", the symbol rate rule has to go. High-speed, low bandwidth communications are here now ... and they're effective, whether or not they're used on the "hurricane net". It's time to get serious if amateur radio is to continue playing a role in emergency communications .... beyond monitoring the parking lots for the actual players.
     
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  7. K0IDT

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    The FCC stopped requiring reporting to the DIRS database on Sept. 7. No need for amateurs by the look of it.
     
  8. K0IDT

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    Agreed.

    Amateur radio hasn't been a "serious" player in emergency communications for quite some time. The diehards refuse to recognize the obvious going so far as to interpret Part 97.1(a) as a mandate, the only reason for amateur radio to exist, and the really hilarious one was the claim that it's a "statutory obligation". Look up the definition of "statutory obligation" and then explain to every licensed amateur that they are subject to a "legal duty" to preform a "voluntary"
    (97.1(a)) service.
     
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2019
  9. K9CTB

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    Agreed, sir. IMHO the ARRL and the ham community at-large have caused their own problem. And all the QST articles about green-vest high-school students with their Baofengs or their "go kits" ain't gonna change that.
     
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  10. W5TXR

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    Why is PACTOR 4 a question in use? Is it a BW issue?
    I don't use PACTOR and Im not familiar with it.
     
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  11. K0IDT

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    Pactor 4 exceeds the current silly 300 baud speed limit. That's the only reason it isn't allowed under Part 97.
     
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  12. NP2G

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    I have used Pactor 1,2,3 and would love 4 . It uses less band width than any ,ANY AM Station out there . It also uses Less band width than ANY ESSB station out there .

    The present system can select 1,2,3,or 4 as it denotes the signal level This allows or can speed things up as signals increase (More messages less time)

    It's forward error correction ability is super.

    Used on the commercial frequencies it brings HF digital to it's station faster than any mode out there .


    As this Hurricane emergency is proving Quick Data communications caring health and welfare messages is needed It just works better with Pactor 4 .
     
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  13. K0IDT

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    What messages? Perhaps you could post some here so everyone could see the "emergency" requests like "send down the Arctic cooler with Publix ice, it lasts longer". That last one was from the Bahamas, where are all the US related
    digital emergency messages from Dorian. I see lots of tests, net check in's, and one ICS213 request for a gallon of Edy's ice cream. Yup, there are disaster comms in progress and as usual the comms are the disaster.
     
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  14. ND6M

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    Then thats where you need to use it.

    Just pay for your e-mail on the boat;)
     
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  15. NN4RH

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    It should be apparent by now what the ARRL strategy is. It doesn't matter if there is any actual traffic handled by P4 or not. What matters is the ARRL requests and the FCC approvals. Done enough times, it becomes routine, and once it's routine, the ARRL will ask FCC to make it legal all the time and the FCC will agree.
     
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