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QRP Portable Antenna Hamsticks For 817/KX3/X108

Discussion in 'Amateur Radio News' started by KJ4YZI, Aug 17, 2017.

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  1. KJ4YZI

    KJ4YZI Ham Member QRZ Page

    I have now started a collection, LOL.
    These telescopic hamsticks are not a new product, but if you don't know about them, or you doubt them, You can see some contacts in my videos using them, and more videos to come.


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  2. K3FHP

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    Another twist on this, and possibly a better radiator is a dipole of hustler mobile antennas with appropriate resonators. My impression would be having a solid tubing vs. A thin coiled wire for the first four feet, the high current pâté of the antenna, the radiation efficiency would be better. It works for me(I use both haystacks and the hustler on occasion). The Haystack version wild be lighter though. What are tour thoughts?
     
  3. KJ4YZI

    KJ4YZI Ham Member QRZ Page

    My thoughts are that I want to have the smallest antennas in my go kit, not large dipoles. I like the idea of a tiny telescopic antenna, (or antennas) to bring along.
     
  4. KG5THG

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    You can use these with an mfj-347 to make the hamsticks into a nice little dipole. Very narrow swr, but easy to tune so you can drop the lowest part of the swr right on the frequency you want. I have used them in both 40 and 20 meter. Not a bad little portable setup.
     
  5. N0FPE

    N0FPE Ham Member QRZ Page

    I prefer the Buddipole...all bands in one antenna and breaks down to a small transportable size..and way more durable than the telescopic doodads
     
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  6. K6MTS

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    I have a few of the single band models, have not used them much but was surprised with the performance when I tried them, yes, counterpoise wire is critical. Typically I go with an end fed wire with my KX2 to keep backpacking weight down, but like you stated, for quick set up, or other times when weight is not a factor, these little guys work pretty well. Thanks for the vid.
     
  7. W9MRH

    W9MRH Ham Member QRZ Page

    Those MFJ-347's are just the ticket. Don't know how light they are though. I've had a pair on order from DXE for a month...................
     
  8. KB4MNG

    KB4MNG Ham Member QRZ Page

    Man, I like your videos. I have subscribed!

    I do have a question. With the terrific deal on the FT891 til the 31st. I have thought about getting that radio and this type of antenna. How would you adjust the swr to make sure it is not high? The 891 does not have any tuner.

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    https://www.gigaparts.com/yaesu-ft-891-hf-6m-transceiver.html
     
  9. KM4CQG

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    Eric

    Future video utlizing these small whips and WSPR to show there performance vs other antennas for QRP work.

    Like the Buddipole or Crank IR or any vertical or dipole you can gather.

    This will eliminate me having to do this so thanks if you do.

    Ian
     
    Last edited: Aug 18, 2017
  10. K3FHP

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    Alwwys better to adjust these for minimum swr and not rely on a tuner as they are a big compromise in efficiency already and using a tuner may make the radio happy but will not help the radiation one bit. A small portable analyzer that you should already have will get you close and if you are using cw or data the small bandwidth won't be an issue. As a last resort, using the built in swr mater on the rig at 5w should be sufficient. AND if using as a vertical, the counterpoise/good ground is a must(salt water is nice).
     
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  11. KC8VWM

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    Always looking for new ideas for portable antenna's. That's cool.

    Thanks for the video.
     
  12. NX1Q

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    I use 2 of them with the 347 mount on 20 and 40 meters. Bandwidth on 20 meters is actually quite good, if you ground the radio to the earth. I get about 250 to 300 k at 2.0 vswr or lower.

    40 is not so great. 80 to 100 at >2.0.

    Reception is great. Tx can bery good to excellent depending on your elevation above hillsides and trees. Another nice thing is you really don't need to put them very high if your spot is decent. I have had mine at 10 feet on kids day, and was getting out all over the place.

    I'm very pleased with the performance, save the narrowness on 40. Buddi pole may be more versatile, but I think having about 14 feet in the air has to translate into better performance by a t least a bit. Buddi pole has what? 6 or 8 feet? Not sure.
     
  13. NX1Q

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    Oops... forgot to mention that mine are the full size mfj hamtennas. About 7 feet.
     
  14. KE0EYJ

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    Although I'm building a portable moxon for the high bands, here is what I currently run with. Largest expense was a 12m (41ft) Spiderbeam fiberglass pole for around $110. The 1:1 current balun was around $25. The wire was not expensive.

    This way, I don't have any compromises, and have a vertically-polarized signal with very low angle of radiation on 20m (my main DX band). I am resonant on 15m, 20m, and 40m. 17m is tunable.

    Smokes a buddy pole, and for a lot less money, because it's not a compromise and it's 41ft high, at the top and 23 feet at the feedpoint!

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  15. WM1A

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    That's funny because I went to your QRZ page & the first thing I see is your Versa Tuner sitting up on your Ten Tec . . . .
     
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